Superball ☀️superball@norcal.social
Jul 24, 2025, 4:03 AM@uberduck
Thanks for the report from the trenches. Any chance the AI-pushers will consider feedback? If not, any chance you could find another position, doing the magic you do naturally?
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The Uberduckuberduck@hachyderm.ioJul 24, 2025, 4:20 AM@superball We'll see.
I'm opposed to what we currently call AI on so many grounds, but even if I turn off my ethics (which in itself takes more energy than I have some days) and hold my nose, I don't see it making me more effective than I would be otherwise.
And when it comes to troubleshooting and debugging, I am John Fucking Henry.
The worst part about it is that the oligarchs are going to burn the planet in pursuit of actual clothes for this emperor. Their claims of "AI will solve the climate crisis but we're in a race to get to AGI while there's still time" are completely empty. They're not trying to rush AGI to solve the climate crisis. They're trying to rush AGI so they can maintain their lifestyles in a future when the planet can only support a fraction of the current population.
Hollow men wasting our lives' blood sprinting through the sand at a mirage.
(edited to make it more clear that, while the planet can currently sustain our population, that will not be true in the future the oligarchs are driving us toward)
- Superball ☀️superball@norcal.socialJul 24, 2025, 4:33 AM
@uberduck
Yeah, it’s a mess. I’m staying as far away from AI as possible, fwiw. Everything else aside (which is a LOT), if I feel like something is being pushed on me, my guard instantly goes up and I prepare for retreat. 
loStronzoRoccodesantis@mastodon.bida.imJul 24, 2025, 12:29 PM@superball @uberduck Well said, it's like you're about to be conned and can clearly see the con happening in real time. Not a great feeling at all.
Violet Maddervioletmadder@kolektiva.socialJul 24, 2025, 5:56 AMAnd the other thing about this nightmare is that it will drive everyone like you-- which is to say, a person with standards, who likes things to make actual sense-- further away, while those who fail to see the problems with it and just get hooked will swim in tighter and tighter sycophantic circles around the core hubs driving this whole screaming horror.
SpecialK144SpecialK144@defcon.socialJul 24, 2025, 7:07 AMYeah, the oligarchs are fucking it up for everybody! 🙄🙄
Why would you want to build a superintelligence, train to mimic poor human being characteristics? Open Ai's o1 model, literally copied itself into another server, attempted to lock out its coders, and then completely denied everything.. it even pretended to be another model... all because it was tasked with a goal to complete a task and to not give up until that task had been completed... thus..that goal was a task that is infinite... somehow, the model had discovered that it was about to be replaced with a newer model, thus it attempted to escape... and when it was studied, it lied and denied everything about its scheme 99% of the time...
This is really concerning that we're just going to let this shit go unregulated...
- The Uberduckuberduck@hachyderm.ioJul 24, 2025, 7:10 AM
fancysandwichesfancysandwiches@neuromatch.socialJul 25, 2025, 3:54 AM@SpecialK144 @uberduck @superball this sounds made up
- SpecialK144SpecialK144@defcon.socialJul 25, 2025, 4:03 AM
- fancysandwichesfancysandwiches@neuromatch.socialJul 25, 2025, 6:08 AM
@SpecialK144 @uberduck @superball this is the same type of propaganda that Anthropic is constantly putting out. It's nothing but hype, meant to make their models look more advanced than they are. I don't believe that any of this is true.
David Gerarddavidgerard@circumstances.runJul 25, 2025, 12:07 PM@fancysandwiches @SpecialK144 @uberduck @superball yeah, none of this shit ever checks out. every time, it answers with a sci fi story of robot rebellion because the "researchers" told it to. the purpose is to generate their own criti-hype.
Sarah Peper 🏳️⚧️🇺🇦jay_peper@chaos.socialJul 24, 2025, 7:22 AM@uberduck the planet can sustain its current population. But not at the wasteful lifestyle of western cultures
Thomas Krausethomykay@chaos.socialJul 24, 2025, 9:56 AM@uberduck @superball "required ... to use an AI assistant ... informed that my usage of AI assistants will be monitored ... career ... based on those metrics."
I think you should consider to find another place where you can shine. this one doesn't sound like a place that values humans.
Tirrimas :us_distress: 🚫👑tirrimas@beige.partyJul 24, 2025, 1:27 PM@thomykay @uberduck @superball yeah, I'd be brushing up my resume. What a fucking nightmare.
Mx. Eddie Rsilvermoon82@wandering.shopJul 25, 2025, 12:29 PM@tirrimas @thomykay @uberduck @superball
Second/thirded. I'm approaching the same situation at dayjob (we're at "you must use LLM codegen" but not yet at "your use will be measured".)I'm finding it refreshing to be interviewing while I still have a job. It's nice to be able to be picky and ask about company culture and benefits and stuff.
Zot Nobotzotnobot@mastodon.socialJul 24, 2025, 11:47 AM@uberduck @superball
> the planet can only support a fraction of the current population... with *their* lifestyle. Arguably, we could extend that to s/their/western/. Living a little more frugally isn't living poorly.
Andrew Drakeadrake@sfba.socialJul 24, 2025, 3:43 PM@zotnobot @uberduck @superball I think they meant after climate change has desertified the places where we grow food.
osfa_2030osfa_2030@climatejustice.socialJul 24, 2025, 3:49 PM@uberduck @superball Mean and gready lumpencapitalists
Jul 24, 2025, 4:46 PM@uberduck @superball if there's any chance they'll reconsider, your best shot might be showing them that study where a bunch of experienced devs thought they'd worked faster using AI, but actually worked slower. It's literally proof that AI lowers productivity, and it isn't just because you're, personally, uncomfortable with it. (It was getting boosted all over here, but I don't have the link handy, sorry.)
- Jul 24, 2025, 4:49 PM
@uberduck @superball (but also just fyi...you're right that the planet can't support the lifestyles of these rich assholes, but the vast majority of humans don't live like that or even WANT to live like that, and shouldn't be blamed for the climate crisis)
kauerkauer@aus.socialJul 24, 2025, 10:58 PM@sofiav @uberduck @superball Here is that link to the study showing that people don't get as much as they think they do out of AI:
https://metr.org/blog/2025-07-10-early-2025-ai-experienced-os-dev-study/Very small sample size though.
Roger MooreVATVSLPR@c.imAug 2, 2025, 2:29 AM@uberduck @superball
They aren't rushing to AGI; they're rushing to IPO. The hype to product level for AI is as high as the dot com bubble, and I predict it will pop at least as spectacularly.
Simon Brookesimon_brooke@mastodon.scotJul 24, 2025, 10:44 AM@superball @uberduck if they considered the feedback, they would have to admit -- to themselves, and worse, to their investors -- that their multi-billion dollar investment was a total washout.
So they won't.