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  • Slava Pestovslava@mathstodon.xyz
    Jun 23, 2026, 3:57 PM

    Open source projects will tell you they have no choice but to allow slop, because doing anything else is a form of gatekeeping that will exclude too many potential contributors.

    Nothing could be further than the truth, though. When the review queue is a non-stop machine gun of giant, bogus drive-by patches, the good contributions will inevitably fall through the cracks.

    Eventually, the contributors you actually want—those who care about the long-term health of the code base, building institutional knowledge, improving their craft, mentorship—will simply leave, because they will realize their limited time and energy is better spent elsewhere.

    A blanket ban on LLM contributions is not impractical, idealistic, or too radical—it's just common sense.

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  • J. "Henry" Waughjhwgh1968@chaos.social
    Jun 23, 2026, 6:08 PM

    @slava I will admit, this position took me a while to come to

    "How do you know what they actually did? What if they lie?" etc

    Your post, in effect, answers that retort: you can easily tell if they used them in most cases

    And the cases where you can't tell? You have to be just as on guard as someone contributing code they got from GCC to your MIT licensed project. That's FOSS

    Whatever answer you had for that (whether based on "good faith" and trust, or basic attestation) covers the rest of it

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  • David Chisnall (*Now with 50% more sarcasm!*)david_chisnall@infosec.exchange
    Jun 23, 2026, 7:16 PM

    @jhwgh1968 @slava

    I’ve seen a couple of PRs where I couldn’t tell they were from LLMs. They might have been from students who didn’t really understand the problem they were trying to solve but were interested in learning. They might have been from idiots.

    I didn’t want to merge the code, but if they hadn’t admitted that they were LLM-generated after a round of review, I might have wasted time trying to mentor someone who has no interest in learning.

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  • J. "Henry" Waughjhwgh1968@chaos.social
    Jun 23, 2026, 7:19 PM

    @david_chisnall @slava yeah, and the fact that you didn't want to merge the code at a glance, as far as quality is concened, is simply was I was thinking about

    Even if it were students, that would be a reason to close the PR and invite them to another forum for a conversation or discussion in my rubric

    I was thinking more about cases where the LLM user is "smart" and "doesn't turt their brain off" so develops a competent solution... that they themselves didn't know was patterned off of GCC

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  • 🌸 lumi-nhac :catbite: :no_ai: :antifa: 🌱lumi@snug.moe
    Jun 23, 2026, 10:28 PM

    @jens @slava even more fundamentally, they are an attack on humanity itself. their whole purpose is to devalue humanity by soullessly regurgitating our creations. they (and genai as a whole) dehumanize everything. they are a hate letter towards humanity itself

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  • C.cazabon@mindly.social
    Jun 23, 2026, 9:11 PM

    @slava

    Additionally, you will drive some contributors away simply because you *are* accepting contributions from those using the license-violating copyright-obliterating plagiarism machine.

    Every one of my open-source projects' code has been ingested by every model out there. Yes, I'm pissed off about that. Yes, I believe it's entirely reasonable to consider LLM use a no-go area for ethics reasons alone.

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  • acbacb@mastodon.social
    Oct 7, 2026, 4:20 PM

    @slava @letterror This seems to be a variant of the Geek Social Fallacy that only bad people ever ostracise anyone, and thus you should invite everyone, even those who ruin it for everyone else

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  • Erikletterror@typo.social
    Oct 7, 2026, 4:54 PM

    @acb @slava Community owned and maintained code relies on a collective understanding of the whole system.

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