Neurotypicals: “This person likes me, so I’ll talk to them about things I find interesting.”
#Autistic people: “The only way this person will like me is if I don’t tell them about the weird things I find interesting.”
@mighty_orbot @actuallyautistic @Starbrother At what point does the term autistic encompass 80% of humanity?
@migriverat @mighty_orbot @actuallyautistic @Starbrother we can miss context and I can’t find the thread but I’m still going to say at no point. I would love if the world were 80% autistic because then people would understand me and non-autistic people would have to explain themselves for a change.
@Elizabeth3 @mighty_orbot @actuallyautistic @Starbrother I’m simply saying that this is a super common thing - and actually more prevalent than its opposite. It seems to make the term mean nothing at all beyond “not a salesperson”
@migriverat @Elizabeth3 @mighty_orbot @actuallyautistic @Starbrother thanks so much, if you didn't clodhop in here to share your valuable insights a bunch of people you don't know could process their own experiences.
Thank god you're here to put a stop to that.
So useful, you
@clowncollege @migriverat @mighty_orbot @actuallyautistic @Starbrother wait I shouldn’t participate in this discussion? How would I know that? Is this somehow private? Why did it turn up in my feed?
@clowncollege @migriverat @mighty_orbot @actuallyautistic @Starbrother are we only supposed to talk to people we know? How is that social media? Guess I’ve been doing this wrong. Certainly explains a few things
@Elizabeth3 @migriverat @mighty_orbot @actuallyautistic @Starbrother I'm responding to the other guy, I think you're lovely
May 17, 2024, 3:20 PMIt's worth formatting your message so that the person you are responding directly to is mentioned at the top and everyone else at the bottom (as I have done here).
That makes it clearer.
@Elizabeth3 @migriverat @mighty_orbot @actuallyautistic @Starbrother
@ratcatcher @Elizabeth3 @migriverat @mighty_orbot @actuallyautistic @Starbrother I agree completely, I'm bad at this side of it but trying to get better
Note that the @ actuallyautistic@a.gup.pe tag means that the original post was posted to a group of autistic people. Unless youre autistic, (maybe you are!) you might inadvertently cause offence.
And if you genuinely feel that you can't talk to people about things that you find interesting... Might be worth investigating whether you're autistic 😉 because that's a incredibly common experience for autistic people.
@Zumbador @Elizabeth3 @mighty_orbot @actuallyautistic @Starbrother Hahaha certainly not ruling that out! But i certainly maintain that as described by OP, it represents the near-universal human experience. Just not the loud and sales-y who take up all the airspace.
@migriverat @mighty_orbot @actuallyautistic @Starbrother at what point do you people stop making the same completely uninformed comment on autistic posts that clearly aren't for you and you clearly don't understand?
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR INSIGHT MR MAN!!
@clowncollege @mighty_orbot @actuallyautistic @Starbrother just what? how could it possibly be offensive to note that if the definition encompasses everyone, it no longer has any meaning? the above comment defined “neurotypical” as referencing a vanishingly small portion of humanity
@migriverat @mighty_orbot @actuallyautistic @Starbrother THANKS AGAIN FOR YOUR SUPER INFORMED COMMENT MR MAN, KEEP EXPLAINING WE LOVE IT
@clowncollege @mighty_orbot @actuallyautistic @Starbrother you are super cool and welcoming thank you
@migriverat @mighty_orbot @actuallyautistic @Starbrother I am sooooooo interested in being welcoming to you on account of how you are being so cool and not a random with their head up their ass
@clowncollege @mighty_orbot @actuallyautistic @Starbrother cool, get fucked?
@clowncollege @migriverat @mighty_orbot @actuallyautistic @Starbrother
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nobody ever writes both neurotypes’ POV correctly, no-one has both POVs.
Personally, they both sound Autistic, the first one isn’t so neurotypical by me. It’s still self oriented, not group oriented - an Autist wrote this toot, right?
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It is no Autist’s experience that the whole world seems Autistic, unless they have a very small world, or an overly vague idea of what it is, right?
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@punishmenthurts @migriverat @mighty_orbot @actuallyautistic @Starbrother after being told my whole life that I don't understand my own experience because someone else can't understand my experience, my capacity to be told that same thing by some random doofus who shows up in my little autistic safe space here triggers me so hard
@migriverat @mighty_orbot @Starbrother
Consider a moment that while this is not an autistic-only thing ... We *do* experience it at a higher rate than allistic (non-autistic) people. We have learned (from being shunned, from being chided, from being "told kindly") that the only way we can be accepted is by not talking about what we're interested in.
Because we often get quite enthusiastic when talking about something that excites us (what's often referred to as "info dumping"), and that paired with not always understanding social cues that allistic people use to show they aren't interested in what we're talking about means we censor ourselves, because we want people to like us (who doesn't?) and because we don't want yet another heartbreak where a person we thought we were friends with tells us off for talking too much, being boring, taking up too much space ...
Is this something only autistic people experience? not at all. Some of it can be rooted in their neurodivergence (anxiety, depression, other things) and sometimes it's misunderstood due to inexperience. "Everyone gets hungry from time to time" as the person by you hasn't eaten for days".
The original post was shared with the group "actually autistic", which is for people who are autistic (whether self-diagnosed or formally diagnosed) *by* people who are autistic.
May 17, 2024, 1:19 PM@melindrea @migriverat @mighty_orbot @Starbrother also interesting to highlight, is the shared experience among autistics of being told off by NTs, and how quickly things can degenerate sometimes! 😂
We try to keep the @actuallyautistic group friendly and safe for autistics to share their experience. We may not be the most socially adept, but the more-abled readers should lean on their advantage and empathize instead of escalating.
@migriverat @mighty_orbot @actuallyautistic @Starbrother troll-like pseudonym social media account gatekeeping autistic experiences and then asserting reason and humanity as justification seems like a wild move.
@seanwithwords @mighty_orbot @actuallyautistic @Starbrother how is that gatekeeping?