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  • clifflecliffle@hachyderm.io
    Oct 9, 2026, 10:52 PM

    Any KiCad 10 users out there who can tell me why pressing a key repeatedly, fast, only recognizes the first press until a delay elapses?

    (Edit: I appear to have gotten 10.0.5 which has an input bug! Thanks @remmy )

    Like, open schematic, select item, start moving, then press R-R-R to rotate it three times... it rotates only once if you press too quickly. Some kind of type-ahead search in the hotkey mechanism maybe?

    The part that really bothers me is that this affects cursor keys, when nudging things around manually. Have to press. them. slowly.

    (answers to some of the likely questions in the replies)

    #kicad

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  • clifflecliffle@hachyderm.io
    Oct 9, 2026, 10:55 PM

    Platform: Arch (Linux)
    Environment: Sway (Wayland)
    No I do not have an input manager/method running
    Yes I poked around in the settings looking for anything that appeared relevant

    This is a fresh install on a new machine without imported settings from any previous install. (So it might be something I turned off in an earlier version?)

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  • maya_b 🇨🇦maya_b@hachyderm.io
    Oct 9, 2026, 11:00 PM

    @cliffle

    ahh- (not on this machine) i have a launcher script that forces an x11 compatibility for kicad as wayland messes a lot up.

    the kicad team doesn't really want to support wayland as its implementation isn't uniform or consistent enough across all distros yet, and they don't want to kludge/bugfix for every variation.

    this became more of an issue with recent versions of gnome in which x11 compatibility is being gutted

    I'm using F-44 with gnome on wayland

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  • maya_b 🇨🇦maya_b@hachyderm.io
    Oct 9, 2026, 11:02 PM

    @cliffle

    this is how I launch kicad:

    flatpak run --nosocket=wayland --nosocket=fallback-x11 --socket=x11 org.kicad.KiCad

    and since using this it behaves as it always has done previously

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  • clifflecliffle@hachyderm.io
    Oct 9, 2026, 11:06 PM

    @fullywoolly @maya_b heh, amusingly, most of the things they list as issues with Wayland are Kicad features that drive me nuts, and I turn off

    - cursor warping
    - remembering where to put the windows (on i3 it would gradually walk the add component window right off the screen unless I dragged it back)

    I'm going to keep testing on Wayland for now, tbh I bet a lot of what they've hit is GNOME-specific.

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  • Ryanfullywoolly@mastodon.social
    Oct 9, 2026, 11:24 PM

    @cliffle @maya_b I haven't used KDE or anything else in a minute. I did try i3 once at work but I had approx 50 billion browser windows and tabs open and the tiles were infinitesimally small. It was a real problem navigating and was hampering my work too much. I didn't give it a fair chance.

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  • clifflecliffle@hachyderm.io
    Oct 9, 2026, 11:25 PM

    @fullywoolly i3 (and Sway, which is more or less an i3 workalike) can switch a desktop into tabbed or stacked view rather than tiled. That's what I do for my browsers. I only use tiling for terminals, in practice.

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  • Ryanfullywoolly@mastodon.social
    Oct 10, 2026, 3:41 AM

    @cliffle oh I didn't make it that far. That's really helpful to know!

    I'll have to give it another go

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  • Hilko Bengenhillu@infosec.exchange
    Oct 10, 2026, 9:57 AM

    @fullywoolly You may also find the container feature (a window containing multiple window, with its own layout setting) useful.
    When working at the desk with a large, wide monitor, I like using a two- or three-column (split-horizontally) top-level layout where every column contains multiple windows in a tabbed or split-vertically layout. When I take the laptop with me, the overall layout stays the same, I just convert those top-level horizontally-split top-level layouts to tabbed – the internal layout stays the same.
    @cliffle

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  • Ryanfullywoolly@mastodon.social
    Oct 10, 2026, 10:26 AM

    @hillu @cliffle that sounds super handy. I mostly avoided docking at my last job to keep it from deciding how to rearrange for me.

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  • Ryanfullywoolly@mastodon.social
    Oct 9, 2026, 11:01 PM

    @cliffle Wayland support is iffy and might be contributing. I downgraded back to X due to problems.

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  • mccmcc@mastodon.social
    Oct 9, 2026, 10:59 PM

    @cliffle I could imagine a piece of software that determines if a key is down or up by querying once a frame, and if one frame turns out to take a long time (for example, "r" takes 0.35 seconds) it would not manage to capture all five of the UP DOWN UP DOWN UP DOWN states. It would be exceedingly odd to write CAD software this way though.

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  • clifflecliffle@hachyderm.io
    Oct 9, 2026, 11:04 PM

    @remmy ding ding ding

    In an attempt to not have to reboot this machine at the coffee shop, I installed 10.0.5 instead of 10.0.6 (which wanted an upgrade of other components, because Arch).

    I will upgrade and presumably this will stop. Thanks!

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