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  • Mute Dog BrewingMutedog@mastodon.social
    Sep 1, 2026, 4:20 PM

    Hey Fediverse, I'm thinking about getting an EV, but I don't want to give money to a huge jackass to do so. What EVs (or hybrids) do y'all recommend? Is the used market any good?

    #Cars #EV

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  • Mute Dog BrewingMutedog@mastodon.social
    Sep 1, 2026, 4:26 PM

    @grace I like Rivians, but my pocketbook does not. That said, I'm not completely ruling them out but I'd need to find a really good deal.

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  • werewolf bar mitzvah 🌕IrrationalMethod@social.coop
    Sep 1, 2026, 4:30 PM

    @Mutedog

    We got a 2026 Nissan Leaf a few months ago and are are very happy about it. It is closer to a small crossover rather than the small hatchback of previous years, but also has enough range. I've generally heard good things about used ones from previous generations, but the first few model years have severe battery life issues.

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    idk anything about the leadership of Nissan, I'm sure it's not great, but least bad option, perhaps?

    (Toyota CEO has expressed support for Trump and the company regularly donated to far right politicians in the US)

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  • werewolf bar mitzvah 🌕IrrationalMethod@social.coop
    Sep 1, 2026, 5:14 PM

    @Mutedog

    They have a few crossover-sized EV models now, but a confusing mix of names, and supposedly share chassis/platform with Subaru. Reading up on them, nothing about their offerings were compelling enough to schedule a test drive unless we found the Leaf to be lackluster.

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  • Søren Havesorenhave@mastodon.nu
    Sep 1, 2026, 4:50 PM

    @Mutedog Go for a non-hubrid (ie pure battery EV) that can fast-charge with at least 80kW and with a battery of at least 50kWh. If you can find any used Hyundai’s or VW’s matching that, that would be my recommendation.

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  • Kevin LeecasterGreenFire@mstdn.social
    Sep 1, 2026, 5:53 PM

    @Mutedog @sorenhave
    So many factors to consider in terms of which EV will work best for you, most of all which country do you reside within?

    About the used EV market, prices have risen quite a bit this year but there are still nice deals to be found.

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  • Kevin LeecasterGreenFire@mstdn.social
    Sep 1, 2026, 8:01 PM

    @Mutedog @sorenhave
    Vehicle choices are subject to so much individual circumstances that I wouldn't know where to begin in terms of particular models or even manufacturers.

    Of course, timeline also matters since the variety of EVs available in the USA, while terrific now although somewhat at the pricier end of things other than the Leaf or Bolt, is going to expand considerably in the next model year.

    I do suggest checking used EV inventory near you first then investigate those vehicles online

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  • Tony MeredithTony_Meredith@mastodon.me.uk
    Sep 1, 2026, 5:02 PM

    @Mutedog It can take a chunk of money. I'd say, pick your time to visit dealerships.
    When we bought a used Kia Niro two years ago, I accidentally found a month (in the UK) when the dealership had support for used sales as well as new cars. (I just can't explain the trade-in deal I got on an old diesel VW in any other way. It really wasn't my negotiating skills.)

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  • tyzbittyzbit@toot.now
    Sep 1, 2026, 5:21 PM

    @Mutedog I just did a lot of shopping with my wife for a new EV, this was our experience. Probably 30 hours spent in-person at dealerships. We're in a lukewarm area for EVs. I'm mostly up to speed on EV tech so feel free to ask anything.

    1 - Toyota - The Prius is compelling and one of  the better values, but lacks premium features (like connected car services, 360 degree view). Other cars like the Camry EV can be pursued, but probably would be only if you like the Camry already and want it as an EV. You can get some premium features a little cheaper than Honda.

    2 - Honda - The Accord was nice, it competes handily against Toyota but again, premium features are hard to come by. Solid car though, worth a test drive.

    3 - Ford - Skipped entirely. Mach-E apple actually fell surprisingly far from the tree but not a relationship we wanted to establish for years (she leased)

    4 - Audi - Had none on hand, lead time in months.

    5 - KIA - I already have an EV6, which I like, but the platform is common among KIA's EVs and the turning characteristics were annoying for my wife (they annoy me a little too but I already own it so I deal with it). EV6 is a solid car overall, good price if you do want premium features, 350kW charging and 77kW battery, plus 3600W (1800W times 2) Vehicle 2 Load (V2L) - the car has an appliance outlet inside and you can plug an adapter to the charge port to get another on a separate circuit. I paid $60k in 2023.

    6 - Mini - We couldn't test one because there were none. My wife loved how they looked and how the ICE one drove, but we can't buy a car that wasn't there and we didn't wanna wait a couple months for one to get shipped.

    7 - Chevy - lol. lmao. The guy didn't tell us they had an EV to begin with at all until we pointed and said "what's that?" and he left us to sit in it in 90 degree heat trying to figure out how to get it out of park. They will discontinue EVs if they can. AVOID.

    1. BMW - This is what my wife ended up going with, a BMW i5. Similar specs to the EV6 but no V2L to speak of, and slower fast charging (200kW is still no joke though). It was filled with features and comforts though, so that's what sold her on it. I'm sure an i3 could be had for less by giving up features you don't need. She signed a lease at $70k. Be forewarned, BMW is known for their feature fuckery (they charged for heated seats and more recently they showed AN AD ON THE DASHBOARD). as it is, there''s nothing stopping the other companies from doing the same, but the fact is BMW is ahead of them.

    My next EV I buy will be a BMW, though that might be in a long time because I still really like my EV6 (and I'm not going to lose the V2L capability household-wide. I've already run our fridge and my window A/C + servers on it during power outages before and i'm not giving that up unless i get solar + home batteries).

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  • pfriedmapfriedma@pfedi.pfriedma.org
    Sep 1, 2026, 7:25 PM
    @Mutedog
    The used market was *fantastic* a few years ago when there was still a lot of FUD about battery life. Now, especially with the whole oil thing, demand and prices are up. An EV battery is generally understood as being good for at least 10 years, so if you can find a good used EV it's a great option.
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  • I.M. Bonettibonetti@mstdn.social
    Sep 1, 2026, 8:20 PM

    @Mutedog I bought a (used) 2023 Ioniq 5 (the 300ish mile range one) in March. I have been very happy so far. (I haven't checked the used market recently.)

    We only use it for local(ish) driving, and the level 1 charger (normal outlet, 1kW) is plenty to keep up with normal use -- even blocking out expensive charging times (or constraining to daylight because of the solar system I have).

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  • I.M. Bonettibonetti@mstdn.social
    Sep 1, 2026, 8:23 PM

    @Mutedog Because I do have a solar system, I did install an integrated L2 charger that maxes at 9kW, and can be set to use excess solar only (so truly filling up on sunshine). It's pretty spectacular to always be ready to drive off, never needing to hit a filling station, and the 2023 model has plenty of knobs/buttons for things like AC and other features.

    I didn't test drive, but my sibling has a 2022 and is happy with it, and it looked good on paper so I bought it as my "learning" EV.

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  • Paul Edwinpaul_edwin@mastodon.beer
    Sep 1, 2026, 8:20 PM

    @Mutedog We're happy with our Volkswagen ID.7, and our neighbours are now on their second ID.3. I guess anything from Volkswagen Group would be similar equipment underneath.

    We had a hybrid before, but full EV is definitely the way to go. I worked out that even if we had to use (UK) public chargers, it would still be cheaper to run than putting petrol in our hybrid. With a home charger and the right tariff, our electricity bill is lower and we're not paying for petrol.

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  • BrisWombatWhombeX@bne.social
    Sep 1, 2026, 11:09 PM

    @Mutedog I was about to suggest a bunch of cars but saw you are in the US and don’t get them.
    Um, with Polestar exiting the US you may get a deal on one, great cars. Volvo will service them.
    The Korean brands go alright, as others have said.

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  • Come On Giant Asteroid!VE2UWY@mastodon.radio
    Sep 2, 2026, 3:34 PM

    @Mutedog

    I’ve had a Chrysler Pacifica PHEV, a product assembled here in Canada by the Dutch company, Stellantis, for just short of a year & I like it. In the warm months, we're getting >1000 km/tank boosted considerably by the fact that the 50-km battery range lets us get to town & back with no gas. Electric range in winter is lower since it doesn't appear that engine heat is used by the HVAC system, so pulls from the traction battery when in electric mode or the generator when in gas mode.

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  • Mark ConnollyuxMark@cosocial.ca
    Sep 2, 2026, 10:28 PM

    @Mutedog @Jeff FWIW, if I interpret EVs broadly, depending on your travel needs maybe a good e-bike would be a fit? Costly when compared with regular bikes, buta bargain compared with a car. Worth considering, again FWIW.

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