I know nothing about Back Market, but there's this, Phil...
🔹Open-source European-made operating system from Murena.
🔹e/OS App lounge for curated privacy-first apps
🔹Sustainable design with 12 replaceable spare parts
https://www.fairphone.com/the-fairphone-gen-6-plus-e-operating-system
@TCMuffin Fair phone is tempting, but expensive. Has anyone got one and if so, what do you think? Will it for example run Android banking apps?
@Janet_52square @TCMuffin Thanks. I've discovered Murena (Fair Phone makers) also sell refurb Pixels with /e/os installed. A cheaper option for me I think.
Cool 👍
I'd ask them your queries. They have a Chat facility and email address...
@pthane @TCMuffin I have a fairphone 6 with /e/os from murena, delivered to the uk within 2 days of order, had it about 2 months now
Had no problems with it, its done everything I've asked
On a full charge it lasts about 2 days, charges in about 2 hours on a standard charger
I've heard reports of banking apps having problems but I've no personal experience
It's the first phone I've had where the os has updated & that took under 10 minutes over WiFi
Anything in particular you need to know ?
@staringatclouds @TCMuffin I don't think my bank has a downloadable APK for its app, my current one came from Google Play, is it possible to install apps from there without other Google services enabled?
Although I have an iPhone, I have very few apps installed.
Any website that I access via a browser on my PC/MacBook, I access via a browser on all my devices, so I wouldn't worry about not being able to download a banking app. But YMMV 🤷
@TCMuffin @staringatclouds The issue is 2fa. My bank has an app to generate a one-time code needed to log in using their website. My wife has a key pad thing instead but they are deprecated. However it looks like Micro G on /e/os allows anonymous installing of apps from the Play Store.
Of course 🤦
I still have my PINsentry and I didn't know that it was being deprecated...despite the constant "nudges" to use the app rather than a PINsentry 🤦
https://www.barclays.co.uk/help/mobile-banking/pinsentry/info/
Looks like the /e/OS Fairphone supports most of the UK’s major banks’ apps…
https://community.e.foundation/t/list-banking-apps-on-e-os/33091
![Screenshot of a dark-mode webpage titled “[LIST] Banking Apps on /e/OS,” showing a table of UK banking apps and their compatibility listings.
Visible banks include Nationwide Building Society, Smile Bank, Co-operative Bank, First Direct, Monzo Bank, Starling Bank, NatWest, Halifax, Barclays and HSBC.
Triodos UK and one Halifax entry are shown struck through.
A counter at the bottom right reads “1 / 981.”](https://toot.wales/system/media_attachments/files/117/126/997/728/666/856/original/6e763aff58302a78.png)
I've got one; it's running stock Android until I can wrench it free from Odido's clutches, but it will run /e/OS and most (but not all) EU banking apps will run on it (some need microG)... the battery seems to not run as well approaching the 18-month mark but that's replaceable, and so are other major components including most importantly the charge port...
Now, this is the 5 not the 6. I casually looked at the 6 some time ago and decided I liked the idea of the 5 better but off the cuff I couldn't tell you why. Also I don't know what kind of issues you might have getting it in the UK; it was only released to the US within the last week....
That's the good, the bad, and the ugly from where I sit...
The more I read about the Fairphone, the more I like it…especially from the privacy and security PoV…
