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  • Dec 15, 2025, 4:46 PM

    And also, again and again — people need to know this! — I get these messages too:

    ICE started to gather, but dispersed when too many observers showed up.

    ICE vehicle headed back to base after being tailed in circles for an hour.

    ICE started abducting someone, but let them go as the gathered crowd got larger and larger.

    These people •really• do not want to be observed. Typical bullies: they cosplay tough guys, they waggle their gear around, but they •behave• like they’re afraid.

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  • Dec 15, 2025, 4:50 PM

    Feeling helpless? Don’t. All of this resistance makes a real and concrete difference. Honestly, the fact that this huge chunk of local residents is giving a visible, sustained “HELL NO” all the time is basically the •only• thing holding them back at this point — but it •is• making a difference.

    If there were a sense of blanket permission, a sense that nobody is watching and nobody cares, a sense that there will never be consequences…we’d be in a whole different circle of hell right now.

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  • Dec 15, 2025, 5:02 PM

    Local community groups? Busting their asses, but they live and die on volunteer support. Legal system? Too slow, too compromised. City, county, state elected officials? Grasping for something they can do. Local police? Useless or worse than useless, of course.

    BUT…all the above are formed by, shaped by, and constrained by popular sentiment. An active, defiant citizenry changes how all these institutions behave. Police know, politicians know, and yes, even judges know: they can only stray so far from what people will tolerate.

    This active resistance? Hell yeah, it matters. It’s the short-term •and• the long-term.

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  • Dec 15, 2025, 5:04 PM

    Some of the little things that don’t make the news really get under my skin.

    ICE agents blow through stop signs, speed, drive recklessly.

    They take off their license plates (illegally), cover their license plates (illegally), •swap• license plates (illegally). We’ve seen the same vehicle show up with different plates on different days There are photos circulating of the •same• license plate number on multiple ICE vehicles side by side.

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  • Dec 15, 2025, 5:05 PM

    Illegal. Completely illegal. But everyone agrees: nobody’s allowed to stop ICE from breaking state and local laws, only issue citations afterwards.

    To mismarked vehicles. With masked drivers who refuse to identify themselves. How do you cite •that•?!

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  • Dec 15, 2025, 5:10 PM

    ICE eats at restaurants I know and love, nice comfy meal before going back out there and destroying more lives.

    It’s weird how much this enrages me. I hope the restaurant staff knows who they’re serving. I hope ICE knows they know. I hope ICE officers eat with nagging doubts about food safety.

    I heard a rumor — this one not well-substantiated — that they ate at a restaurant and then come back and raided it the next day.

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  • Dec 15, 2025, 8:41 PM

    ICE assaulting a pregnant woman.

    Covering their license plates with fake spray-on snow to hide the numbers.

    Getting pelted with snowballs by the crowd and responding with pepper spray — which only increased the snowballs.

    Just this afternoon’s local news.

    Video of the snowballs (CW: person being assaulted, dragged)
    (UPDATE: video attached in case FB blocks; source URL is facebook.com/share/r/1ZaUBtkGC)

    ICE officer shove, drag person across between parked cars. Shrieking crowd throws snowballs. ICE responds with pepper spray.
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  • Dec 15, 2025, 9:08 PM

    @inthehands While at the ICE bldg in Portland we noticed that the same cars were going to and from the bldg with different plates. I think they have been trading out random plates at another location and driving in and out to avoid detection in their vehicles with their plates in public. In June they had just started taping their plates up or taking them off entirely but people started reporting them as driving with no plates

    You’re valid in feeling enraged. Everyone should be enraged. I wish more people were because anger is a DOING emotion.

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  • Dec 15, 2025, 11:59 PM

    @Iamsaltytrash @inthehands

    It's also against state law to drive a vehicle using license plates registered to another vehicle.

    These are not "undercover" operations. They are and should be acting in plain sight.

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  • kelleynnnkelleynnn@mas.to
    Dec 16, 2025, 2:43 AM

    @Iamsaltytrash @inthehands This has been discussed at Salem city council meetings, whee we have been trying to pass a resolution to order ICE to follow the law. They keep a "bank" of licence plates.

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  • Dec 16, 2025, 2:58 AM

    @kelleynnn @inthehands yeah - when the last time I went down there, we had people writing down the plate plates and tracking them and they started noticing the same plates coming back on different cars so that is definitely what they’ve been doing.

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  • Dec 16, 2025, 6:13 AM

    @Iamsaltytrash @inthehands

    Remember the names of the people who bought an election for these corrupt Republican public officials

    These billionaires might be unreachable, but these ICE goons are patsies waiting for their trials for crimes against the Constitution

    Focus on The Moneyed & money funding the Fascism.

    They own what ICE is doing

    1. Elon Musk $291,482,587
    2. Timothy Mellon $197,047,200
    3. Miriam Adelson $148,304,900
    4. Richard Uihlein $143,498,936
    5. Ken Griffin $108,402,284

    1/

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  • Dec 16, 2025, 6:15 AM

    2/

    The folks funding the fascism.

    6. Jeff Yass $101,128,680
    7. Paul E. Singer $66,800,800
    8. Marc Andreessen $42,365,113
    9. Stephen Schwarzman $40,202,039
    10. Timothy Dunn $35,780,200
    11. Rob Bigelow $34,991,500
    12. Diane Hendricks $33,165,417
    13. JJ Ricketts $32,273,650
    14. Shirley W. Ryan $32,198,116
    15. Warren A. Stephens $25,895,650
    16. Laura Perlmutter $25,344,890
    17. Vince & Linda McMahon $23,961,659
    18. Ronnie & Nina Cameron $21,372,500
    19. Jan Koum $20,855,091

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  • Dec 16, 2025, 6:17 AM

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    The folks funding the corruption. .

    20. Thomas Klingenstein $17,410,263
    21. Rob Walton $17,572,601
    22. Janet J. Duchossois $16,306,033
    23. Howard W. Lutnick $16,503,667
    24. Kelcy L. Warren $16,151,105
    25. Walter W. Jr. Buckley $15,522,500
    26. Thomas Peterffy $14,305,900
    27. Anthony Pratt $14,000,000
    28. Sherrilyn Fisher $13,299,894
    29. David Millstone $13,413,486
    30. Lynne Walton $13,037,750
    31. Charles Schwab $12,801,600
    32. Stephen Wynn $12,518,750
    33. Anthony Lomangino $9,529,705

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  • Dec 16, 2025, 6:18 AM

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    The folks funding an ecocide & frying a planet.

    34. J. Christopher Reyes $9,536,425
    35. Jay Winters Faison $9,084,324
    36. James Davis $8,497,854
    37. John W. Childs $8,694,286
    38. Patricia Duggan $8,446,099
    39. Richard G. Haworth $7,500,800
    40. Marc J. Rowan $8,721,299
    41. Jeffrey & Loeffler Specher $7,052,013
    42. John L. III Nau $7,030,556
    43. Shannon V. Addison $6,757,065
    44. Robert H. Book $6,986,387
    45. Susan Fox $6,687,414
    46. Patricia Perkins-Leone $6,606,600

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  • Dec 16, 2025, 6:19 AM

    5/

    The people inciting pretexts for another profitable war and pandemic.

    47. Jeffrey Hildebrand $6,508,389
    48. Bernard Marcus $9,397,150
    49. Steve Brodie $6,481,298
    50. Daniel Newlin $6,063,928
    51. Trevor D. Rees-Jones $5,765,124
    52. Sarah Perot $5,643,416
    53. Harold C. Simmons $5,596,530
    54. Kelly Navarro $5,373,100
    55. Alice Walton $10,248,000
    56. Rob Granieri $5,587,899

    opensecrets.org/elections-over

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  • Dec 15, 2025, 9:12 PM

    @inthehands you read about it but it is truly shocking every time to see it. In our own streets, the absolute brutality and the absolutely enraged citizenry.

    I hope these brutes are pursued day and night, everywhere they go. They should have no peace.

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  • Dec 15, 2025, 10:53 PM

    @Benhm3 @OGjester @inthehands

    I had to take ipecac in a hospital as a child and the effects are IMMEDIATE! Surely there's something OTC that would be a little delayed and hence more effective in this situation. 🤔

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  • Dec 16, 2025, 12:22 AM

    I should think something along the lines of spoiled dairy products. You can add an acid product like lemon juice or vinegar to milk or yogurt. But lemon juice and milk can also make buttermilk, and I don't know why that is safe. Anyway, takes 30-60 minutes for the reaction.

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  • Dec 16, 2025, 5:11 PM

    @inthehands They're free to turn them away, refuse to serve them. Or kick them out (though usually without charging).

    I worked in food service for many years. Don't fuck with people who make stuff you're going to put in your body.

    ICE is playing a very dangerous game, and I wonder if they're aware of it. Most of them seem like dumb thugs to me. I would bet they're not savvy enough to recognize themselves as SA.

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  • Dec 15, 2025, 5:29 PM

    @inthehands If #ICE personnel refuse to identify themselves to local or state police, the police should at least collect photos, as well as retinal scans and fingerprints if possible. AFIK, these are not considered protected private information requiring a warrant to collect. The devices are less expensive than the weapons police carry. I predict more than a few thugs with a history of trouble with the law will turn up. They will also be easier to find and prosecute after these troubles pass.

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  • Dec 15, 2025, 5:33 PM

    @inthehands aiding traitors is treason for people who've sworn the oath

    failing to stop them is then treason also

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  • Dec 15, 2025, 10:06 PM

    @inthehands Police should be under orders to treat them exactly the same way they'd treat activists doing those things.

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  • Dec 15, 2025, 10:53 PM

    @inthehands You don't cite them, you take them off the road. Cops should treat members of the ICE gang the same way they would treat members of any other gang showing fake or no license plates, running stop signs and red lights, refusing to identify themselves and masking their faces while armed.

    Problem is, the ICE gang and the cop gang are often but chapters of the same gang, so none of this happens

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  • angiebabyangiebaby@mas.to
    Dec 16, 2025, 3:08 AM

    @inthehands

    I think masked drivers who refuse to identify themselves should be seen as civilian kidnappers and responded to with the appropriate force.

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  • Dec 15, 2025, 7:19 PM

    @heafnerj @inthehands

    When they're not afraid of losing their jobs and not afraid of not being able to pay their bills, what have they got to be afraid of?

    I'm not talking about physical threats or anything, but like, can businesses legally refuse to serve them?

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  • Dec 15, 2025, 7:28 PM

    @GuyDudeman @inthehands My (potentially incorrect) understanding is that private businesses can refuse service to anyone for any reason barring things like racial discrimination.

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  • Nazonazokiyoubinbou@mastodon.social
    Dec 15, 2025, 10:37 PM

    @heafnerj @GuyDudeman @inthehands Yes businesses can (and should!) refuse access to ICE members.

    Technically ICE does things that violate the rules that basically every business applies to people anyway. If one of us went in disrupting everything and grabbing people, you can bet they'd kick us out. So technically, by their own arbitrary rules they *have* to deny access to ICE... (There is no one set of rules beyond "don't disrupt our profit margins" but still...)

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  • Dec 15, 2025, 8:42 PM

    @crcollins @GuyDudeman @inthehands Businesses run by Republicans have refused service for myriad reasons, some which are illegal but nonetheless pressed through the courts. It's time for a taste of their own version of "freedom" they seek to impose on eveeyone else.

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  • Dec 15, 2025, 7:03 PM

    @inthehands It is clear that #ICE doesn't have the stomach for battle. As we gain dominance over ICE, the worst problem may become police departments with "task force model" 287(g) agreements. Lots of these exist in places infested with MAGA meatheads, and operate essentially unopposed.

    In Florida last Spring the Florida State Police kidnapped over a thousand people in one operation lasting less than a week, and joint police/ICE attacks have been common. The only one I know off the top of my head to have been defeated was an attack on migrant workers in Immokalee, FL near the start of all this. A sheriff's dept car with hostages inside was surrounded and the cops were forced to release hostages taken by ICE to escape without having to fight their way out.

    Common pattern is for too many state police or sheriffs cars for a speed trap to sit on a highway off-ramp and pull over every work truck they can for "immigration checks." This may be with or without an ICE vehicle even being present. Lately ICE themselves has been in Miami an lot, possibly hunting Cubans. One day I saw a forest of incident pins in Miami on iceout.org. No whistles, no gathering crowds, just kidnappers operating freely. Remember all cops here are effectively ICE agents too, making things far more dangerous.

    Florida governor DeSantis is an even bigger Nazi than Trump, so we have two concentration camps here too: Camp Baker and the notorious Alligator Auschwitz torture camp.

    Florida is turning into Hell, under a roaring Cat 5 hurricane of official violence, racism, and hate.

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  • Nazonazokiyoubinbou@mastodon.social
    Dec 15, 2025, 10:35 PM

    @inthehands It scares me that someday they'll be given full gestapo powers — but that's exactly why we need to wreck them now while all it takes is people being loud to do it.

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  • Dec 16, 2025, 1:41 AM

    @inthehands Please consider not using the term cosplay for what you describe. Cosplaying is a hobby that involves fandom, fiction, passion and respect for human beings. By comparing cosplay to violence and bullying, you are offending thousands of harmless, friendly people.

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