Aug 17, 2026, 1:48 AMcannot believe that the current debate in open source is "should we actually understand the code we write or should we give money to sam altman and dario amodei to rent the ability to produce the jankiest garbage you've ever seen"
Aug 17, 2026, 1:49 AMyou have all taken leave of your fucking senses
Aug 17, 2026, 2:03 AM(the 'local model' dodge isn't even worth taking seriously, either)
@atax1a There is a debate?
Aug 17, 2026, 2:48 PM@glyzberj there have been multiple organizations having votes, and people are still voting "lets slop it up" so yeah there is a debate
@atax1a @glyzberj At least from the debian angle, there's _always_ going to be a vote. Getting 1000 globally distributed volunteer developers on the same page would be pretty difficult otherwise. I mean, we could do the consensus-based days of meetings (the student coop model, to decide whether or not it's okay adding beef jerky sticks to the weekly Costco order even though Joel is vegan and won't partake), but..
Aug 17, 2026, 2:47 PM@icedquinn we did not forget, we simply do not take that even remotely seriously
Aug 17, 2026, 2:37 PM@atax1a i mean it's not really a debate, it's just people's politics shining through
Aug 17, 2026, 3:28 PM@clayote @atax1a i mean it's more that people will sit and make careful hypotheticals and and technical points as if any of those would change their mind or as if they were the reason they came to those conclusions
the underlying bit is "my convenience trumps consequences for others", a little bit "it works on my machine"
and it's a sort of pantomime people do to look reasonable, and...
yeah i guess you're right it is political debates
Aug 17, 2026, 3:52 PM
Aug 17, 2026, 5:58 PM@ChemicalEyeGuy i am a #coyote
@atax1a Have you looked at the code that recent models are producing? I have, and it is very good
Building systems with AI is still a logic puzzle, like always. To be effective using these tools you need to be proficient at serial logic puzzles, like raw coding.
But with these tools your reach is much longer and more powerful
Revolutionary tools
Aug 17, 2026, 9:28 PM@worik fuck off
Oct 14, 2026, 11:17 PMOct 14, 2026, 11:16 PM@atax1a amazing, right?
@atax1a Let it rock, chef is in the kitchen
Oct 15, 2026, 12:52 AMand then the motivation for doing so is fueled in part by the practically nonexistent donation revenue on most projects. Which only creates a negative feedback loop as reviewers have to review more slop instead of taking time to write
@atax1a Sometimes I forget that people actually fucking pay to use slop machines oh my god why