Right: the word ‘ichor’.
Please add where you’re from or where your English is from if replying. Along with your pronunciation!
Right: the word ‘ichor’.
Please add where you’re from or where your English is from if replying. Along with your pronunciation!
I wonder if I should have asked your ages instead of origins, as I am pretty certain ick-or was the only version I’d heard until 15, 20 years ago.
@CommonMugwort Australia
@caity Thanks! What did you vote?
@CommonMugwort Eye. Ick sounds so odd to me!
Eye-chor, probably because I heard it pronounced that way.
Born in Canada to NZ father and USA mother, grew up in Melbourne, Australia.
Who knows where I get my language from?
@CommonMugwort @dubiousblur Ireland with access to BBC.
@hardingar @dubiousblur Thanks! What did you vote?
@CommonMugwort @dubiousblur With the majority. Eye - chor (soft ch)
@hardingar @dubiousblur SOFT CH?!? Now you’re blowing my mind.
@CommonMugwort Britain (eyekor)
@dubiousblur Thanks!
@CommonMugwort eyekor, sorry :)
@dubiousblur I got it, thanks!
@CommonMugwort UK: ick-ur (to rhyme with licker, or liquor).
@darkling That’s how I say it too.
(U.S, but also Greece, which complicates things, especially because that’s where the word is from)
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But to note I think it's a word I've only ever read rather than heard...
@gwenynen Always a distinction worth making. Which option did you choose?
@CommonMugwort ick...
@gwenynen @CommonMugwort Yeah I'd only ever read it until like a couple of years ago when I heard it in Diablo IV, haha. I read it as "itch-or" in my mind, not having any reference to know how it would be pronounced.
@virtualwolf @gwenynen The wider your reading, the more likely you are to have words like that.
@CommonMugwort I would say ick-or, or a variant closer to ich-kor, but my upbringing is unusual… (Diplomat’s kid, went to both british and North American-based schools before coming to Canada and living there from age 13 to 40…)
@fgraver Yes, many English speakers struggle with that kh sound, so I decided to leave it out.
@CommonMugwort 47, somehow, improbably... 😬
@gwenynen 😆😆 I am unaccountably 55…
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I can attest to eye-kor in England from 1960s, and I've not encountered ick-kor. Perhaps different in North America?
@sunflowerinrain No, irrespective of where they’re from, most say “eye-”. I’m not sure I can trust my own memory of “ick-“ because I might just be extrapolating from Greek.
@CommonMugwort eye-kor London/Dublin but I listen to a lot of Warhammer and Cthulhu books so my pronunciation is probably from them.
@Colman I wonder who uses it regularly outside SFF and gaming circles. Some biologists, and nobody else.
@CommonMugwort I can’t think of any other use and the dictionaries don’t provide any.
@CommonMugwort I don’t think I’ve ever said it out loud, and the only place I regularly see it written is in World of Warcraft (Spider Ichor and Ichor of *Undeath - two common drops). I chose the first as my best guess, but in my head the “ch” is asperated, like in “loch” or “Bach”, as I’ve been reading it as a Welsh word all these years.
(Ed. Wales, late-50s)
(Ed. Another edit, before the WoW pedants get me)
@nic It’s spelled with a χ in Greek, so your aspiration is bang on so far as I’m concerned, but I don’t want to prescribe to anyone, am just curious.
I am listening to an audiobook about battling aliens, so the word comes up a lot (as eye-kor, a pronunciation I find a bit jarring), which is what made me ask. It’s definitely not a word you hear a lot.
Scottish. I'd say ick-or, but I've never much thought about the pronunciation. Perhaps there's a transatlantic difference, in the same way that Americans say 'eye-ran' or 'eye-raq'.
@riggbeck Well, this was my first hypothesis, but the majority of respondents are somewhere in the U.K. and they majority answer is eye….
(not all Americans do the eye-ran thing either)
According to the Cambridge English Dictionary, it's pronounced the same way in the UK and US, which surprised me. But I'll stick with ick-or.
@riggbeck It’s the closest to the Greek, so it makes the most sense to me.
(But I am not here to tell people how to pronounce words.)
@CommonMugwort ee-chhor
From Greek, innit
@matthewskelton : D
Possibly pre-Greek, apparently.
@CommonMugwort
English.
Grew up with "eye-kor"; usually in "re-told for children" Greek myths but also in a biological or botanical context; became aware of Greek pronunciation some time later.
@CommonMugwort Short i, USA, GenX (but grew up in an insular American Evangelical environment in Central America; my wife says I grew up in the 1950s).
@ossobuffo I honestly think that’s how Americans said it when we were kids!
@CommonMugwort I don’t think I ever heard the word spoken aloud until adulthood. It’s entirely possible I’ve still never heard it; only read it (most notable in The Graveyard Book).
@ossobuffo It’s possible I’m projecting the Greek pronunciation onto my American childhood.
It’s true I wouldn’t have heard it often, if at all.
@CommonMugwort
Ich-or (guttural ch)
Ireland
@CommonMugwort eye-kor. UK. Not aware, until you asked, that others use a different pronunciation (it's not exactly a commonly spoken word)
@CommonMugwort Eye-kor is the only pronunciation I've ever heard and I was brought up in Scotland. It's also the pronunciation both my UK and US dictionaries give.
I believe it's acceptable for the long i to become short in the adjectival form, ichorous, although I'd prefer to keep it long myself (not that I've ever said that word aloud!).
@bodhipaksa Thanks! It’s a Greek (or possibly pre Greek) word, spelled with an ι (iota) so I can’t bring myself to use it the long “i”.
@CommonMugwort Do you also pronounce the "ch" as a χ?
Not knowing how Ancient Greeks would have pronounced it I treat it as an English word derived from Greek, rather than as a Greek word.
@bodhipaksa I aspirate it a bit, yes.
It’s not like I go around pronouncing ‘dinosaur’ Dee-noh-savr, I do understand that languages make words their own, but for some reason eye-chor really gets to me (see also ee-ros for Eros). Hmmm, maybe because it’s the very start of the word.
@CommonMugwort Definitely eye-kor, but always ick elsewhere (ichnology, for example)
@BashStKid Which is inconsistent, but English pronunciation of Greek words isn’t always consistent.
@CommonMugwort ick-or. West of London, but my mother's Scots and still has a perceptible accent (some of which stuck to me).
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The first one and Detroit, Michigan, USA.
@JeremyMallin Always glad to find a fellow ick-er. : )
@CommonMugwort ee-chor. American but I'm not sure I've actually heard it pronounced before 🤨
Eye, from the west coast of the US, but for me this is 100% booklish. I do not believe I've ever heard anyone say the word
Ick-or is a novel concept to me. And I wonder if it is where the word icky comes from?