@munin no im telling you that the GPUs are for training
there's also some use of GPUs for execution, but the bulk is for training, and thats why they're sucking up GPUs
@munin no im telling you that the GPUs are for training
there's also some use of GPUs for execution, but the bulk is for training, and thats why they're sucking up GPUs
@munin as for what's at risk of spreading, it's not the LLMs, it's the "agents" which is code that calls out to LLMs. obviously a little program that can call out to an LLM API does not require a GPU and can run on small hardware
@beka_valentine @munin lmao, 30 day mute for this deeply uninformed, wrong opinion presented with this much confidence.
@0x00string @munin you do not matter, random person
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During its own testing, Anthropic said it found that larger AI models can split themselves up and run across multiple devices. Some models also managed to pass knowledge to replicated versions of themselves, enabling them to adapt to different hardware.
"Machines that could run a significant model shard for a <30B model include smart fridges, smart ovens, automatic vacuum cleaners, and lawnmowers," the company said.
What's more, Anthropic notes, newer smart home devices are integrating AI chips to power their own AI models, giving attacking models more horsepower to continue spreading.
And thanks to their ability to run on different types of devices, they could eventually spread to increasingly powerful machines.
Anthropic says rogue replicators aren't a problem for now, since models under 30 billion parameters can complete individual steps in the replication process but make mistakes when running the entire chain of actions.
Okay.
Distributed local model genAI. That sounds interesting if not slow and even more error-prone than regular. Imagine network bandwidth between a geographically spread out botnet with a C2 server for coordination. You don't get the asymmetric benefits of something like a DDoS. It's all downsides and kind of a silly way to replicate. It's possible but it would suck.
Better would be to target high performance endpoints with lots of storage and too much RAM.
If you pre-loaded it with enough malware behavior documentation, you might even get one to actually do it, or at least spread out a permanent repository of context to be referenced later.
Still, the company says, at the current rate of model improvement, they may be able to reach such capabilities by the end of 2026.
lol lmfao even
Edit: also, a plot point from "Person of Interest".
we call this "malware" in the business. it's kinda been a thing for a minute; my job is about this.
@munin it is definitely malware, yes
then they are still making bullshit claims; malware is not fucking magic, and we already -have- "smart appliance" malware being coordinated by backends much more sophisticated than whatever idiocy these assholes have ginned up this time.
@munin no one is claiming malware is magic, and yes we already have malware on smart appliances
they're 100% using scare tactics, don't get me wrong
ok so that is my problem here. they are using bullshit scare tactics and the fuckheads in the press are repeating them credulously, as tho it is, again, -fucking magic-
@munin ok but the thread started with you asking what the GPUs for and I was answering that question
@beka_valentine @munin what Anthropic is claiming, explicitly, is that it is the LLMs themselves. click the link
ok, so, apologies for being insufficiently correct on which bottlenecked resource is in play here,
but the point I'm trying to make is that their claim is -horrific bullshit- and I am expressing a significant distress that this is being taken seriously by the tech press.
@munin the claim is not horrific bullshit you're just mistaken about what they're claiming