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  • Hashemspeed Jew! Glatt Hemperor :catte: :asexual_flag:cyberquixote@infosec.exchange
    Sep 6, 2026, 7:57 PM

    @elettrona

    so this is where I think more care needs to be taken, and I suspect that the reason the walls are so high is because a lot of human systems and behavior are open to abuse instead of genuinely helping people.

    so I suspect that a reduction to things like accessibility are seen as good things by more conservative tech folks because of the fact that there is worry about the fallout of mass adoption of technology, sort of like what many of us on that side of the fence are concerned about regarding AI.

    the truth is, the system rewards attending to the average more than the special cases, so that logic is baked into the design. the desire for standardization in order to manage scale doesn't prioritize this.

    under this system where you have the most selfish and cunning making the rules instead of the most empathetic, it is almost always assured that the abled get first picks because often they are already built for the existing standards and process.

    it leaves those with different standards and use cases out of it, which makes it a bad time if you're not in that group.

    for many STEM folks it is a legitimate blind spot and one that is encouraged because it is seen as out of scope.

    it ultimately creates new problems for those who don't fit the logic of the "average"

    you would either need to codify and ensure resources are put into special accessibility cases so that users like you aren't excluded, or make the case that its financially lucrative to do so in the current system.

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  • Elena Brescacinelettrona@poliversity.it
    Sep 6, 2026, 8:17 PM

    @cyberquixote "average" means control. You can put a mass of people in a box, making others' needs silent. But if I expect it from far-right and ultra-conservative people, I would not expect it from the other side!
    Then, speaking of "conservative" I'm harding using this term directed to far-right only, because those so-called "left" who tell me "and what did a blind person do before glasses?" are using the same philosophy of "and what did gays do before same-sex marriage? They lived their life anyways".
    I feel very irritated when I hear people talking that way, because they talk from a privileged point of view, whatever "privileged" means. Be it sight, money, a more "socially accepted" condition, and so on.

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  • Hashemspeed Jew! Glatt Hemperor :catte: :asexual_flag:cyberquixote@infosec.exchange
    Sep 6, 2026, 8:30 PM

    @elettrona many people are happy to go along with it and accept the average, because from a harm reduction standpoint it looks like good metrics.

    if we had a system that didn't just work for convenience but worked to actually help people, I suspect all these hoops wouldn't exist for those of us who aren't able to be sold to according to "the standard"

    you always need a human to ensure these cases are handled properly and not overlooked, and this is where I fear unchecked usage of AI stuff can be the problem, not that disabled people shouldn't benefit from technology, cause I know I do to some degree. we all do, really, even if the convenience can lead to other unforseen consequences. i know as someone on the spectrum I benefit cause I have extreme anxiety in social situations.

    we should find a way to raise the standards enough so that we're not just leaving the more vulnerable out to dry, this is where tech can sort of help, but really you need policy and programs that are going to prioritize it...otherwise its crowdsourced good will which as we know is very precarious and fickle.

    that requires people who aren't totally in it for themselves though, and given the current economic situation...I see why it is very discouraging, it also does devastate those who are disabled without a safety net.

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