So Nvidia did exactly what we all said they were doing and bought up all the wafers. There was no shortage after all.
This mean I can go pick up some terabytes now? Please god.
So Nvidia did exactly what we all said they were doing and bought up all the wafers. There was no shortage after all.
This mean I can go pick up some terabytes now? Please god.
Definitely need to check Sam “you guys don’t need RAM” Altman and see what he’s over there buying up currently. Because if one is doing it…. The rest of them are too.
@old_angry_queer there it is.
@ErickaSimone yes, however:
1) he is a billionaire and thus much less likely to face repercussions for his actions (see: # of arrests based off Epstein files, BP Horizon, etc)
2) Those are federal charges and Trump likes him and can just pardon him or direct his department of injustice to not pursue charges in the first place; so it becomes a matter of if Jensen becomes radioactive enough that Trump will throw him under the bus.
Hope so.
I think there's still some purchasing commitments that'll keep production and prices wonky for awhile.
It really is endlessly amazing how much people who already have so much will deliberately hurt others just to have a little more.
@401matthall the lack of humanity in most humans is insane right now Matt. Exhausting.
@ErickaSimone this is fraud, right? like a big finanical crime? a coordinated conspiracy of many individuals to drive their stock price up by falsely inflating their sales? i feel like i would go to jail if i did that
@ErickaSimone Surely this is anticompetitive behaviour?
@elricofmelnibone oh we hit anticompetitive years ago. But with no one in office who will regulate…. We are stuck.
@ErickaSimone so NVIDIA is the DeBeers of RAM?
@steggy EXACT.
when are they going to arrest this criminal or is this another Epstein file deal where the rich friends of 47 are above the law
@peachfront they won’t. The system isn’t designed that way. It’s only to punish* poor people. Also, black, brown and female. And children.
@ErickaSimone crossing fingers prices crash on graphics cards I need a new one sooner than later
@john80 never prayed on a tech crash so hard in my entire life.
@ErickaSimone agreed lol.
I just had this lovely image of a large d-ram piñata bursting with happy children joyously scrambling to pick up the computer parts
@ErickaSimone it's really annoying how well that strategy worked even though everybody could plainly see it
like, it forced us to process that big institutional investors see this stuff as intended behavior. this is what the market means to its strongest proponents.
@ireneista @ErickaSimone So this is actually one level further than I had expected.
I thought nvidia was building GPUs as fast as they could *and selling them to hyperscalers* who were then sitting on them unable to build DCs fast enough to house them.
This article sounds like they were not actually even selling a lot of the GPUs.
@ireneista @ErickaSimone Like, my impression of the situation was that nvidia was selling shovels in a gold rush and the gold miners were the ones who were going to get screwed in the end, but that they actually did in fact have sales and that the GPUs had been manufactured, paid for, and changed hands.
@ireneista @ErickaSimone I thought the bubble was gonna pop and nvidia was gonna be sitting on a hoard of cash and everyone else was going to be screwed.
It's now sounding like they might not be in as good a position as I had predicted. I thought they would be the only one left standing when it all came down.
@azonenberg @ErickaSimone greater-fool scam. everyone involved in such a thing wants to believe they're the ones taking advantage of the others
@azonenberg @ErickaSimone there was a time early on when we thought nvidia would be doing well, but then it turned out they were subsidizing their own customers...
@ireneista @azonenberg @ErickaSimone
probably because they considered their market cap more important than actual income
inflating the bubble was more important than making actual money
should've been obvious that this can't work out forever, but I guess they were blinded by greed
@Doomed_Daniel @ireneista @ErickaSimone what ever happened to the idea of building a sustainable business model that makes a profit providing a useful service or product people actually want, not growing to a scale you can't manage or demanding growth for the sake of growth, etc
@azonenberg @ireneista @ErickaSimone
that would be nice, wouldn't it..
can't do that when publicly traded, though, if some shareholders or analyst wankers think you're not growing fast enough or whatever you're screwed, no matter if your business is otherwise sustainable or not
@azonenberg @ireneista @ErickaSimone
(note that this isn't meant to *excuse* their scam, just highlight the mechanisms that cultivate this kind of megalomania and greed)
@Doomed_Daniel @ireneista @azonenberg @ErickaSimone honestly, it's still only a bad move for them if they are likely to face personal consequences for their actions.
Huangs crime is disloyalty. If he gets done for the grift, it's a by-product of that.
@azonenberg @ireneista @ErickaSimone nvidia have absolutely exorbitant margins on these things right now. they can cope with a big pile of these deals going bad.
more existentially for them, they want to make sure they have customers who aren’t OpenAI and Anthropic. honestly it kinda reads as if they are screwing their firmer customers (hyperscalers, big ai cos) by locking in high prices to make bets on their up-and-coming competitors.
and in the process maybe inflating their stock price a bunch
@azonenberg @ErickaSimone @ireneista now i think it is very fair to say that nvidia probably overextended their market position. their margins make it easy to compete with them, and if you’re doing large scale inference other vendors are really fucking attractive right now.
So the bubble is real...
@xs4me2 ….and the explosion should be huge.
It might, a mix between a gold rush and a tulip mania...
@xs4me2 I’m thinking between gold rush and 2008 “banking crisis.”
@ErickaSimone
Nvidia buying up its own chips? Manipulation of stock evaluation? Could this stumble into espionage mark the beginning if the AI bubble bursting?
@dougiec3 bubble violently exploding actually, is what I’m hoping for
@ErickaSimone are we betting on the finance markets seeing this as hard evidence of a bubble, or no?
@naught101 oh yes we are.
@ErickaSimone I love your optimism
@ErickaSimone Need refund from Huang. I spent too much on RTX that I bought last month 🥲
@brucewayneakabatman maybe you can catch that price matching refund. lol.
@ErickaSimone It's wild that Huang needed to have this very public fall from grace in order for the press to admit that thing we all knew was happening and could see with our very own eyes was *checks notes* happening.
@ErickaSimone @osxreverser i think this might be backwards.
nvidia is a fabless semiconductor company who surely would have had the shortages from COVID present in the institutional memory.
since they don't have a fab, the only thing they can do is commit to buy TSMC's production. if they did that late during peak FOMO pricing, they now created a shortage by buying up all of the capacity.
with that excess of chips, funding the next generation of buyers (legality & ethics aside) makes financial sense
@ranvel @osxreverser thats what happened. He bought out TSMC production in mass by fronting various “AI startups” which would then buy out the supply. They get into it in the article.
@ErickaSimone
Wait!
Nvidia was messing with the marketing price of chips?
Next you're gonna tell me that Jensen Huang was screwing around and got caught in some kind of scheme to ship embargoed tech to Mainland China...
#Nvidia #JensenHuang #PriceOfRam
@ErickaSimone my 10 year old is building a "new" computer and it's been a slow road. Luckily I don't throw anything out and I had 15gb ddr 4 from my 2015 computer
@simonoid Im still stuck on “my TEN YEAR OLD is building a new computer”
You might be dealing with a genius sir lol
@ErickaSimone oh I'm impressed as heck 🥰he did all the research too. The part I'm happiest with is him learning the value of money, saving. I am relieved that he's not buying robux or fortnight currency anymore 😅