joschjosch@floss.social
Oct 26, 2026, 2:02 PMReplies
Oct 26, 2026, 2:08 PM@josch thank you for your message, and "AOL", as the kids would say.
Enrico Zinispanezz@mastodon.bida.imOct 26, 2026, 2:11 PM
soapdogsoapdog@social.soapdog.orgOct 26, 2026, 2:15 PM@josch I am so sorry Debian is going this route and that you found yourself in such position. That sucks. Hope your time outside is great (it is raining a lot here so it is time for coding with rain sounds for me)
- joschjosch@floss.socialOct 26, 2026, 9:04 PM
@soapdog I have worked with computers so much in my life that more and more I'm in the camp of "maybe it would be better to live somewhere in the mountains with some goats and lots of nature around" The more I do with computers, the more I find myself learning to appreciate how friggin' beautiful it is outside and even how nice it feels to have your fingers burn when you bike through the rain because heck it reminds you that yes, you are alive and life and this planet are so amazing. :)
Oct 26, 2026, 3:03 PM@josch
No worries, i saw the same criticism and people screaming they are leaving for using coding tools that highlight code syntax, FOSS life keeps going on without you.
Oct 26, 2026, 8:11 PM@paelnever @josch Did you though? I've never seen a FOSS development that forced a particular tool on coders. Those tools didn't destroy the environment.
Alexander 😷alxndr@tech.lgbtOct 26, 2026, 3:40 PM- joschjosch@floss.socialOct 26, 2026, 9:08 PM
@alxndr Oh dear, that reminds me of this screenshot somebody shared of a prompt they had with some chatbot where they said "no" only for the chatbot to then go on and write "you said no but i think what you really mean is..." and then went on to ignore the "no" and do the opposite... Sigh...
- Alexander 😷alxndr@tech.lgbtOct 26, 2026, 9:49 PM
@josch Well, there's probably a ton of "pickup artist" forums in the training data. 😑
Oct 27, 2026, 11:44 AM@josch Thanks for bringing this topic to a wider audience and also thank you for linking to your long description of the issue at hand. 👏
From reading that text, I also get the idea that this is an overstepping on what was promised. Hopefully this can be resolved without scaring away too many people.
- joschjosch@floss.socialOct 27, 2026, 1:13 PM
@dzu An opt-out process has just recently been implemented (but not announced). Of course i much rather would have liked this to be opt-in instead...
jœ̈ljollysea@chaos.socialOct 27, 2026, 12:59 PM@josch I'm a debian user, so I think there is a good moment to thank you for your work and to tell you I'm behind you on this decision. Good message, too!
Oct 27, 2026, 4:07 PM@josch 🖤
Oct 27, 2026, 6:22 PM@josch i appreciate your good and principled stance! (and, since i saw you mention WÜ in the replies: servus und gruesse ein paar km den main hoch!)