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mccmcc@mastodon.social
Oct 15, 2026, 3:15 AM
Rejecting LLMs for humans writing code: Unambiguous good imo
Rejecting git for svn: Bold choice but on balance better I think
Rejecting Linux for BSD: Seemed harmless but pointless up until now, but now Linus has gone metalhead seems prescient
Rejecting svn for cvs: No. You have gone too far. Stop using those floppy disks
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mccmcc@mastodon.social
Oct 15, 2026, 3:21 AM
IS THE NETBSD PROJECT FLIRTING WITH ME. WTF
https://merveilles.town/@d6/117442766909526602
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fluffy 💜fluffy@plush.city
Oct 15, 2026, 3:18 AM
@mcc svn is an interesting choice but I think on the whole git is a better system, especially with how branches work and how it's decentralized.
I'm not a fan of how these days "git" really means "github" to most people though. And that the other modern git forges have basically no interop, they just reimplement the github way of doing things with their own version of lockin on issues/wikis/etc.
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mccmcc@mastodon.social
Oct 15, 2026, 3:18 AM
@fluffy I like github more than i like git
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Jens Finkhäuserjens@social.finkhaeuser.de
Oct 15, 2026, 3:33 AM
@mcc @fluffy svn is pretty good, actually.
But the DVCS of me heart remains monotone. It was awesome, then Linus killed it because he couldn't be just a contributor.
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fluffy 💜fluffy@plush.city
Oct 15, 2026, 3:19 AM
@mcc but yeah I would never ever go back to CVS, I used it professionally for years and that's a thing best left buried
but also when I started my career, CVS was still "too new" and a lot of places still used RCS over nfs, and gosh *that* was a mess.
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Paul Cantrellinthehands@hachyderm.io
Oct 15, 2026, 3:37 AM
@fluffy @mcc
HP’s bespoke in-house version control was the first time I saw CGI in action — they’d just spun up a web interface for it — and I realized that web servers didn’t have to just respond to a request by reading a file from the disk, and it blew my mind.
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mccmcc@mastodon.social
Oct 15, 2026, 3:37 AM
@inthehands @fluffy Wait was this SnapshotCM or something that didn't suck
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Paul Cantrellinthehands@hachyderm.io
Oct 15, 2026, 3:44 AM
@mcc @fluffy
It was purely in-house, made at HP and only used there. Can’t remember the name. It did suck, but it was arguably better than CVS!
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mccmcc@mastodon.social
Oct 15, 2026, 3:45 AM
@inthehands @fluffy terrifyingly this post is telling me there were *multiple* vcses created in-house at HP and only used there
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Paul Cantrellinthehands@hachyderm.io
Oct 15, 2026, 5:23 AM
@mcc @fluffy
Which post? If I see the list, it might jog my 30-year-old memories. Would have been used in the developer tools group. Hmmm, did it maybe go by “SCM?” Or am I thinking of something else?
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Danielle Crawfordaizuchi@hachyderm.io
Oct 15, 2026, 4:02 AM
@fluffy @mcc RCS: now those are years of my life I’ll never get back
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fluffy 💜fluffy@plush.city
Oct 15, 2026, 4:14 AM
@aizuchi @mcc At my first job out of college we used RCS over NFS even though CVS existed by then, because the CTO of the company was Very Smart and had a belief that CVS was troublesome because he didn't want to learn how to resolve conflicts.
The repository also used strict locking and pretty much all of the functionality was in one gigantic .c file that people would always forget to checkin/unlock before going on vacation.
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Danielle Crawfordaizuchi@hachyderm.io
Oct 15, 2026, 4:16 AM
@fluffy @mcc sadly many such cases
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fluffy 💜fluffy@plush.city
Oct 15, 2026, 4:17 AM
@aizuchi @mcc of course perforce also has the same problem and that's what every place I worked used before git took over.
(It's less of a problem if you actually use branches in perforce but I can count the number of places I worked at that used perforce with branches on a single finger.)
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mccmcc@mastodon.social
Oct 15, 2026, 4:29 AM
@fluffy @aizuchi so the thing is you want locking on binary files but on source files you want merges. Plastic got this right.
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fluffy 💜fluffy@plush.city
Oct 15, 2026, 4:30 AM
@mcc @aizuchi Agreed yeah
git-lfs kinda-sorta works around the binary file locking issue well enough at least, but in such a weirdly roundabout way.
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mccmcc@mastodon.social
Oct 15, 2026, 4:33 AM
@fluffy @aizuchi it does?
How?
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certified computer hippiepenryn@www.librepunk.club
Oct 15, 2026, 3:32 AM
@mcc Rejecting BSD for Plan9:
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David StarkZarkonnen@mastodon.social
Oct 15, 2026, 5:22 AM
@mcc Yeah I mean why use CVS when there's Microsoft Visual SourceSafe???
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Lou.gkrnours@mastodon.gamedev.place
Oct 15, 2026, 7:08 AM
@mcc I don't know if you saw, openbsd choose to make their own DVCS, https://www.gameoftrees.org/.
They might have been using CVS before that
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John-Mark Gurneyencthenet@flyovercountry.social
Oct 16, 2026, 6:57 AM
@mcc
Are you saying I should stop using rcs?
(Yes, I'm still using rcs, but for things like config files where it makes sense.)
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Ursidinoj/The Bjornsdottirsellenor2000@mastodon.top
Oct 19, 2026, 3:14 AM
@mcc *Forking* the BSDs? #lang_en
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mccmcc@mastodon.social
Oct 19, 2026, 3:15 AM
@ellenor2000 What?
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Ursidinoj/The Bjornsdottirsellenor2000@mastodon.top
Oct 19, 2026, 3:15 AM
@mcc It's what I'm seriously considering given that NetBSD has, due to apparent bureaucratic forcedness, accepted fasho money. #lang_en
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