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d@nny disc@hipsterelectron@circumstances.run
Oct 13, 2026, 11:39 AM
@prahou @netbsd i am actually looking to begin a major schism in the near future but not in the BSD space and i believe it should work to the benefit of netbsd
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kill bot 1.2-betaug@brain.worm.pink
Oct 13, 2026, 11:42 AM
@hipsterelectron @prahou @netbsd
they were the runt of the litter for a while but they may well come out on top, many such cases
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Tomášprahou@merveilles.town
Oct 13, 2026, 11:43 AM
@ug @hipsterelectron @netbsd not *that* many
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d@nny disc@hipsterelectron@circumstances.run
Oct 13, 2026, 11:44 AM
@prahou @ug @netbsd multiple such cases
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d@nny disc@hipsterelectron@circumstances.run
Oct 13, 2026, 11:46 AM
@ug @netbsd @prahou the uvm virtual memory manager system from chuck cranor's phd thesis was first integrated into netbsd in 1998 or so before others finally caught on
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d@nny disc@hipsterelectron@circumstances.run
Oct 13, 2026, 11:47 AM
@ug @netbsd @prahou i totally wanna snipe @joe into working on the init system. i wonder what @navi thinks about BSDs and whether openrc would be aligned with netbsd's goals (navi is anti-LLM too, i just mean in abstract terms of software architecture)
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d@nny disc@hipsterelectron@circumstances.run
Oct 13, 2026, 11:50 AM
@ug @netbsd @prahou @joe @navi really cool article https://blog.pr4tt.com/2016/02/02/BSD-virtual-memory/ my literally insane ideas about transactional parallelizable i/o and persistence might require a separate kernel but hurd and netbsd would be where i'd try to prototype things first
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wicked witch of the unixnavi@social.vlhl.dev
Oct 13, 2026, 11:52 AM
@hipsterelectron @ug @netbsd @prahou @joe

openrc was originally developed for gentoo, but by a netbsd developer, so, probably? i think so

my only nit with bsds is the "whole base system is one single mostly interconnected project/repo", but otherwise, seems nice, and openrc does it's best to support a couple including netbsd, though i'm not aware of any openrc users running it on netbsd atm
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Joe Groffjoe
Oct 13, 2026, 4:56 PM
@hipsterelectron my ambitions for an init system are mainly just "boot and halt as fast as possible". i am interested in drew devault's alpinebsd project, which is s6-based, since apk is nicer and a bit more amenable to reproducible offline configurations than pkgsrc
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