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  • Juggling With EggsJugglingWithEggs@mstdn.social
    Oct 23, 2026, 4:17 PM

    If we as a country acknowledged that there is a sick national (generally male) perversion around girl’s in school uniform, then is the solution to try and police every potential image or just say why are we holding onto this ridiculous relic that endangers girls who wear it?

    For me this is a very powerful reason to again seriously consider getting rid of school uniform.

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  • Alex@rtnVFRmedia Suffolk UKvfrmedia@social.tchncs.de
    Oct 23, 2026, 4:24 PM

    @JugglingWithEggs my nephew's school just has a broad dress code (not uniform, but also avoiding the issues with bullying due to parents not being able to afford designer labels)

    Alas, I'm seeing the opposite across England - with normal primary and high school all deliberately encouraging stricter uniform rules and all other "Hogwarts" type bullshit to "improve discipline" like its still days of Queen Victoria..

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  • LemLemsLemlems@mastodon.social
    Oct 23, 2026, 9:36 PM

    @JugglingWithEggs I could understand schools having a dress code that ensures kids are wearing something safe and practical like “everyone has to wear trousers and a polo shirt in the summer / jumper in the winter”.

    But the idea that school uniform is a leveller for families of different economic means is made a bit ridiculous when the uniform often has to be bought from one overpriced supplier and sometimes involves things like blazers and ties that can’t be worn anywhere else.

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  • Juggling With EggsJugglingWithEggs@mstdn.social
    Oct 23, 2026, 10:13 PM

    @Lemlems

    Exactly! My kids at their current high school get to wear trousers/skirts and polo shirts and hoodies/v neck jumpers - but all the items above the waist are branded and only available from two outlets in the whole of Norfolk…which makes them expensive and not easy to just pick up if something happens to one of them.

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  • UkeleleEricUkeleleEric@mstdn.social
    Oct 23, 2026, 4:35 PM

    @JugglingWithEggs And, ironically, it has got worse since I was at school. When I was there, we had uniforms at Middle (9-13) and High (14-16) School, but, a few years later, there was also uniform at the Primary stage. There is a small Primary school in Derbyshire that I was reading about a few years back that was bucking the trend - no uniform required for school day, only sensible clothes appropriate to that day's lessons - not only did the children do better than other similar schools, (cont

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  • Juggling With EggsJugglingWithEggs@mstdn.social
    Oct 23, 2026, 5:07 PM

    @UkeleleEric

    My kids didn’t have to wear uniform at infant school (up to Yr 2)…it seemed very sensible. Kids could be kids. Get messy, move about with ease and feel comfortable in themselves.

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  • BashStKidBashStKid@mastodon.online
    Oct 23, 2026, 5:27 PM

    @JugglingWithEggs No problem with no uniform, but sadly it’s not likely to change the outlook of a lot of men.
    The idea of ‘contributory negligence’ seems very hard to destroy.

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  • Juggling With EggsJugglingWithEggs@mstdn.social
    Oct 23, 2026, 8:55 PM

    @Photo55

    School uniforms are not common in Europe or North America though. How many of the countries that do have school uniform also used to be part of the British Empire? There have been some unfortunate concepts that sadly we Brits have been responsible for exporting…

    Divide and rule
    Straight line cartography
    Sedition and blasphemy laws
    Anti LGBTQ+ penal codes
    Cash crop monocultures

    And I would add school uniforms.

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  • MidgePhotoPhoto55@mastodon.social
    Oct 24, 2026, 7:10 AM

    @JugglingWithEggs
    Straight line cartography?
    Do you mean "The Mercator projection is a cylindrical map projection introduced by Flemish geographer and cartographer Gerardus Mercator in 1569. "
    Or the borders of the USA big square states in the middle, and various straight lines in Africa which tended to have various colonial powers associated.

    (We didn't really have uniforms, but we dressed uniformly, suit and tie. Cricket clubs have blazers, and colours etc. )

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  • Juggling With EggsJugglingWithEggs@mstdn.social
    Oct 24, 2026, 8:09 AM

    @Photo55

    I was thinking of the straight lines that divided African countries - splitting tribes and causing tension that still exist today.

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  • MidgePhotoPhoto55@mastodon.social
    Oct 24, 2026, 8:14 AM

    @JugglingWithEggs
    Not my area, but did they divide existing countries, or establish/create/define administrative areas, and later pass them on to successors? Not ideal, but establishing borders by defensible features fought over for generations has its drawbacks as well.

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  • MidgePhotoPhoto55@mastodon.social
    Oct 24, 2026, 7:16 AM

    @JugglingWithEggs
    Didn't Machiavelli write about divide and rule? And Sun Tzu who pointed out the art of war included not having one?
    The Roman Empire played the tribes against each other, and their later politics is remembered as Byzantine. I rather think Chimpanzee troop leaders understand it on their scale.

    Perfidious Albion may have formulated it as foreign policy, but that didn't cause the Medieval and early modern wars.

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  • Juggling With EggsJugglingWithEggs@mstdn.social
    Oct 24, 2026, 8:13 AM

    @Photo55

    I would agree the concept of ‘divide and conquer’ is not necessarily British in terms of its creation, but it’s very much in the bones of our national identity in terms of our class system and we exported that around the world with colonialism.

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  • MidgePhotoPhoto55@mastodon.social
    Oct 24, 2026, 8:30 AM

    @JugglingWithEggs
    Before that, the foreign policy of allying so as to avoid a dominant coalition in Europe, which got us th3 tag3 of Albion perfide.
    Standard primate stuff I think, writ large.

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  • MidgePhotoPhoto55@mastodon.social
    Oct 24, 2026, 7:21 AM

    @JugglingWithEggs
    The Romans awaited the grain ships from whatever Libya was called then, the Japanese based their economy on credit, settled when the Rice harvest was in. Europe invented crop rotation, on those long strip fields.

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