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  • ✧✦Catherine✦✧whitequark@treehouse.systems
    Aug 21, 2026, 1:49 PM

    for me it's almost entirely point (3), which i think is the source of a lot of disconnect with some of my peers. i don't think my job security got any less (more, if anything) plus i'm confident i can outperform genAI jockeys if it comes to that; and i don't think writing code is any more intellectually special than doing woodworking or something. no, it's mostly that these peers participate in the creation of a world that i do not want to live in. and that is a major trust issue.

    hachyderm.io/@inthehands/11713

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  • Ken Bruckersigsegv@hachyderm.io
    Aug 21, 2026, 2:18 PM

    @whitequark I’m also in the (3) camp. Multiple times now I’ve run across some terrible code during reviews and I’ve asked if AI was involved in the process. The answer is generally yes, and the reason given is that the developer didn’t understand the code so they used AI to help. I suspect when I get a No, it’s still really a yes.

    I greatly resent the use of my time to gatekeep AI slop. In one extreme case, the code wouldn’t even compile. The function started, then mid code, not even in a comment, “rest of function goes here”.

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  • Calicoday :gamedev:calicoday@mastodon.gamedev.place
    Aug 21, 2026, 4:25 PM

    @whitequark Very much agree. Plus I don’t want to work describing what I want built (or worse, speaking it aloud) or I’d’ve gone into management. The tech could be bent to support hands-on tooling but that’s not what’s being pushed.

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  • Dion Dokterdiondokter@fosstodon.org
    Aug 21, 2026, 4:29 PM

    @whitequark I feel like number 2 is more of a USA thing. At least in The Netherlands I don't feel like devs have ever been 'special'. Not intellectually, nor compensation-wise, nor culturally

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  • amarioguyamarioguy@treehouse.systems
    Aug 23, 2026, 5:30 PM

    @diondokter @whitequark personally i suspect 1 is much more US-centric a point than either 2 or 3, (personally i'm a mix of 1 and 3 here)

    remember that there are a very large number of professions in the US that absolutely do not pay people enough (yes, even though these professions are often quite critical and beneficial to society in many ways! it's horrific how underpaid many of the critical jobs aren't paid nearly enough for how much they hold society together) and tech is one of the vanishingly few spaces in the US that actually pays anything remotely resembling a reasonable pay these days

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  • Dion Dokterdiondokter@fosstodon.org
    Aug 23, 2026, 5:49 PM

    @amarioguy @whitequark

    > anything remotely resembling a reasonable pay

    Ha well... IMO that's an understatement. There's plenty of juniors that out earn me (PPP) in the US. Like, I'm seeing ~$160k total comp for Uber in the lowest Software Engineer I role. (More than the median of 141K in SF)

    And I mean, good for them. The higher the wages there, the more competitive I am.

    You are right that falling back to more normal jobs hurts more if you fall from up high.

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