May 21, 2026, 6:13 PMBetter late than never: PureOS 11 (crimson) is finally out, catching up with Debian 12 (bookworm) just in time for when bullseye/byzantium lose their extended security support next month. If you're still on byzantium, update ASAP! It's a solid improvement over both byzantium and plain bookworm. 🧵
#pureos #librem5 #purism #gnu #linux #mobilelinux #linuxmobile #linuxsmartphone #shotonlibrem5
May 21, 2026, 6:14 PMWhile it's still not exactly on the bleeding edge, it's a significant step forward. Lots of infrastructural blockers that prevented further development have been resolved in the process, and even though the base isn't very fresh, there's quite a bit of fresh work included too. I'd say the end result may even be more polished in some areas than in other up-to-date distros now (with a strong accent on "some areas", obviously, as they're clearly ahead in some others!)
May 21, 2026, 6:15 PMNow moving onto the trixie-based PureOS 12 "dawn", which should become usable by early adopters in the coming months 🎉
Thank you for your support and patience on the way there 🤗
@dos Thanks a lot for all your work on this!
How do you manage to show an "empty" screen so that you can see the wallpaper? If I close all apps, I see the icons of the available apps, and the Search apps... box.
I only see the wallpaper sometimes very briefly when opening an app.
May 21, 2026, 7:01 PM@janvlug There are several ways to get there, but pressing the Escape key is probably the simplest one 😀
@dos Cool, I learnt something new!
@dos Thank you Sebastian for all the hard and valuable work you've done to help make this happen!
@dos I have been hesitant to ask a timeframe on Dawn since I know how Purism's been burnt in the past when estimating dates. I won't hold you or anyone to "coming months" but its still great to hear this.
The phone, as it stands today, is running the smoothest and most reliably that it ever has for me. Thank you for this.
@dos Would you say Dawn might come quicker with all the set up work done in Crimson?
May 22, 2026, 12:33 AM@f_underscore I have no crystal ball to look into, but Crimson has been exceptionally unlucky in this regard, with multiple mutually unrelated reasons for its delays. For Dawn, the "only" thing left is to actually polish the distro itself.
@dos I can testify to this. Camera with #Millipixels and GPS turn-by-turn navigation with #Puremaps are both significantly improved. In fact, I just drove to a new suburb for the frst time without needing my degoogled Android. Previously I was using #postmarketOS on this #Librem5. Thanks.
May 24, 2026, 1:57 AM@opensourceopenmind @janvlug You may want to adjust Speaker Boost ALSA control rather than use software amplification that causes clipping. This is shared with the earpiece, be careful not to blast it at full volume when you have it near your ear.
May 24, 2026, 2:03 AM@opensourceopenmind @janvlug I hope that PipeWire will let us sort this out better. PulseAudio was very stubborn at considering the maximum available hardware amplification as 100% instead of 0dB, so I had to restrict it from using the whole range to keep it sane :(
@dos @janvlug I'm excited for Pipewire. In pmOS 25.06 on L5, almost everything (not only Millipixels) including Firefox with Jitsi and Galene, other camera apps like Snapshot, other apps using camera like Decoder, Dino XMPP, Delta Chat, etc all mostly worked for scanning, video calls, etc. In 25.12 there were problems with legacy voice calls so they switched back to pulseaudio.
May 24, 2026, 10:31 PM@opensourceopenmind @janvlug But PipeWire can still handle video even when PulseAudio is handling audio...?
@dos @janvlug That's how I thought it should work but I actually now I remember, the L5 camera not being detected by Firefox on pmOS 25.12 was observed before they did the change back to pulseaudio: https://gitlab.postmarketos.org/postmarketOS/pmaports/-/work_items/4179
May 24, 2026, 11:11 PM@opensourceopenmind @janvlug libcamera won't produce nice image yet, but it should work nevertheless, so that's likely just some distro misconfiguration that you should be able to debug. Make sure you enable PipeWire support in Firefox in the first place, I don't think it's enabled by default yet.
@dos YIPPIE
it only took forever and a day
@dos Does it support Waydroid?
It seems so because if I look at the snippet it seems starting Pureos11 Waydroid will be in APT!
https://source.puri.sm/-/snippets/1198
What a time to be alive! great work.
Now I was wondering, is there a migration guide for my Android data?
May 24, 2026, 1:44 PM@dantalion Waydroid has worked for several years now. The package is now included in the PureOS repositories indeed. Coincidentally, Debian has packaged it a few days later as well.
Not sure what you mean by migration guide. Migration from/to what?
@dos For the android user data
Specially cause the snippet I referenced suggests to delete it in the installation step.
It suggest to run:
`sudo rm -rf /usr/share/waydroid-extra /var/lib/waydroid ~/.local/share/waydroid ~/.local/share/applications/waydroid.*.desktop ~/.local/share/applications/Waydroid.desktop
`
May 24, 2026, 1:50 PM@dantalion But what are you migrating from/to? What do you want to do in the first place?
This is an installation guide, so it tells you how to start from the clean slate. There shouldn't be a need for a upgrade guide, just upgrade 😜
@dos From the old pureos to 11. Having previously manually installed Waydroid from the CI Debian package.
I wish to upgrade pureos without losing my android user data.
I guess as long as I make a backup I can just uninstall the old packages and place the user data back in the right location after installing Waydroid from the repository.
May 24, 2026, 1:53 PM@dantalion It's the same package.
@dos Couple of days ago I dusted off my Librem 5 and installed Crimson on it. First thing I notice is that it's running smoother and it does not heat up as it used to. Battery life is also noticeably longer both when actively using it and in suspend.
This is a massive improvement.
Congratulations and thank you for your effort.
Jun 21, 2026, 5:01 PM@dos I finally had time to free enough space to upgrade. Looks good so far. Thanks for the good work.
Did I do something wrong or do I still have to manually edit phoc.ini to have persisting scaling.
What happend to the todo app? Is it a different app? I really liked the view where you could see all notes as if they were on a post-it note. Now it is more time based than topic based it seems.