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  • Oct 16, 2026, 10:06 AM

    There's a poll going round the Fedi at the moment about whether you would be able to use an AED/defibrillator on a woman having a heart attack and a lot of people are commenting they'd let the trained person who brought it use it. In the UK at least you don't need to wait for ambulance staff to bring it, they're in lots of public locations like stations, shopping centres and churches. In an emergency if you're on the phone to the ambulance service they will tell you where the nearest one is, but if you want to familiarise yourself with the locations of nearby ones just to be prepared you can see them here: defibfinder.uk/

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  • Oct 16, 2026, 10:10 AM

    @afewbugs
    I was instructed in this and our instructor told us: that person is already dead so do everything you must.

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  • Oct 16, 2026, 10:13 AM

    @afewbugs the public style ones are designed for anyone to use them and have audio prompts. They won't shock if there is a detected heartbeat and broken ribs from bad CPR can heal, a dead person not so much.

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  • Oct 16, 2026, 10:13 AM

    @afewbugs not only that but all of the AEDs in the UK public places have a voice instruction telling you exactly where to place the pads and do a check before applying a charge, anyway. They are really well designed.
    (And I would literally have been practising with one today if I wasn’t missing my Overland Guide Association (theoga.info/) course today through covid 🤒

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  • Oct 16, 2026, 10:21 AM

    @afewbugs there are also quite a lot in office buildings and places generally not open to the public. The building we have our repair cafe in usually has one, but its not on the map as its not public.

    If you work somewhere regularly it is worth finding out where the first aid stuff is just in case. Would be bad to run down the road to the nearest public one when there is one in the next office.

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  • Oct 16, 2026, 10:41 AM

    @afewbugs That poll is quite separated between the US and Europe. In France, these defibrillators are also placed everywhere. And every building with public is obliged to have a security plan in the entry and on each level that shows all important things.
    *Everybody* can use a defibrillator, the machine tells you (yes, it talks) what to do. Every second counts for life saving.
    But a training in first aid can help you against panic.

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  • Oct 16, 2026, 10:42 AM

    @afewbugs That's a rather sobering toot. If you wait for a trained person to bring a defibrillator it'll be too late. And you don't need any training to use one at all. Anyone can use it. The defibrillator talks you through all the steps including compressions and rescue breaths. The pads have diagrams...

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  • Oct 16, 2026, 10:57 AM

    @afewbugs Boosting for maximum visibility!

    Absolutely, never ‘wait for a trained professional’, get in there with the helpful defibrillator.

    I suspect this indicates that first aid training in schools and the workplace is a lot poorer than it should be.

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  • Oct 16, 2026, 11:01 AM

    @afewbugs by coincidence my husband and I have been discussing purchasing one. While healthy we are moving from old to elderly and the emergency response time where we are is a minimum of 20 minutes. We have been trying to decide whether it’s crazy to get one or not.

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  • Oct 16, 2026, 11:51 AM

    @afewbugs

    There are automated defibrillators in Australia, too - in lock boxes at train stations and shopping centres - you call to get the code to open the lock box, and the defibrillator verbally talks you through using it.

    If the person doesn't need a shock, the defib will refuse to administer a shock

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  • Oct 16, 2026, 12:34 PM

    RE: social.coop/@afewbugs/11745002

    Anyone can and should use an Automated external defibrillator (AED)!

    Anyone can use it, they are designed for untrained people to use them.

    Also, if you can, help keep #OpenStreetMap up to date when it comes to AED locations: if the map says one is there, please check it really is, now, when there is no emergency and you've got a couple minutes to spare. It could make all the difference to someone down the line.

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