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  Wolf480plwolf480pl@mstdn.io

  Oct 25, 2026, 2:57 PM

  @joshbressers what if we split the pile into multiple piles separated by nonflammable areas, and then preventatively burned down each pile every so often?

  How would that work in software?

  How does fire spread from piece of software A to B?
  I guess
  - B depends on A (or vendors it)
  - B is built using A
  - A happens to be installed on B's developer's workstation / CI server / source repo server

  So we'd need completely separate self-hosted software ecosystems...

  ok maybe not a good idea after all

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  Adam Shostack :donor: :rebelverified:adamshostack@infosec.exchange

  Oct 25, 2026, 3:06 PM

  @joshbressers Hi Josh, I hear you're interested in oily rags! My well funded statrtup is producing oily rags in never-before-seen quantities, and we'd like to store them on your property, for free.

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  Nu Modularnumodular@c.im

  Oct 25, 2026, 3:19 PM

  @joshbressers Worse: those oily rags are getting even more crude oily-garchy.

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  Thomas DepierreDi4na@hachyderm.io

  Oct 25, 2026, 3:34 PM

  @joshbressers Well and helping volunteers would need to start wondering why all rags are oily.... and why they have to use rags, instead of building with other materials

  And then we would have to build an industry. That is so much work.

  Easier to tell them they are bad devs.

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  Josh Bressersjoshbressers@infosec.exchange

  Oct 25, 2026, 3:37 PM

  @Di4na yes!

  And since you’re a bad dev, please also fix my bug

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  Daniel Schildtautiomaa@mementomori.social

  Oct 26, 2026, 9:16 AM

  @joshbressers @Di4na That is the irony:

  If OSS maintainers would be so "bad devs", why would companies build their business on top of it? And expect that the "bad devs" would do "bad fixes" when the stack of software piled on top of it catches fire. 🤔😓

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  Paul Barkerpbarker@social.afront.org

  Oct 25, 2026, 3:39 PM

  @joshbressers it's ok because adding more oily rags increases shareholder value over the next quarter.

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  all-inclusive gender resortcarol@crabby.fyi

  Oct 25, 2026, 3:51 PM

  @joshbressers

  
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  AmoshiasAmoshias@esq.social

  Oct 25, 2026, 4:39 PM

  @joshbressers the great thing here is I have no clue what you're talking about, but it doesn't matter, there are at least a dozen things this applies equally to

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  George Bgbargoud@masto.nyc

  Oct 25, 2026, 4:43 PM

  @joshbressers

  Costs more *in the immediate short term* it's way cheaper if you take a long or even medium term view of costs.

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  Danny Boling ☮️IAmDannyBoling@mstdn.social

  Oct 25, 2026, 4:44 PM

  @joshbressers

  Your wonderful subtlety... :chefkiss:

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  LilPersefonelilpersefone@mastodon.social

  Oct 25, 2026, 5:27 PM

  @joshbressers you’re not wrong

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  Tom Walkertomw@mastodon.social

  Oct 25, 2026, 6:50 PM

  @joshbressers We built everything we have out of flammable materials that catch on fire sometimes.

  This was not ideal but we made do.

  Now a huge shop has opened next door that only sells flamethrowers.

  And they are being encouraged to help us "improve our fire resilience" by using our flammable materials as target practice.

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  Brian Gordonelasticsoul@mastodon.social

  Oct 25, 2026, 7:52 PM

  @joshbressers

  I think it's about who pays the costs. #Capitalism is all about externalizing costs so others pay for their profits. In addition, while humans figured out eons ago how to prevent a tragedy of the commons, causing that tragedy is basically the business model of many corporations

  "The current plan is to just keep throwing more oily rags on the pile. We could try to help the volunteers, but that costs more than adding oily rags to the pile"

  #corporatism #fascism #collapse

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  Hopeless Noosphere Situation Warrior :catte: :asexual_flag:cyberquixote@infosec.exchange

  Oct 25, 2026, 10:06 PM

  @joshbressers the plan is to use the volunteers like kindling and then hopefully everything will work out. cause its got to, it simply has to!

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  shoninshonin@c.im

  Oct 26, 2026, 1:19 AM

  @joshbressers Oily rags sank the Normandie. My dad was almost killed fighting that fire. So take heed what this man's sayin'.

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  Chad Brigancedefinity@infosec.exchange

  Oct 26, 2026, 5:12 AM

  @joshbressers so true!

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  Dan Patchdatn@xoxo.zone

  Oct 26, 2026, 7:59 AM

  @joshbressers you're dead on with this analysis. and yet: everything IS on fire

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  Resunaresuna@ohai.social

  Oct 26, 2026, 9:32 AM

  @joshbressers I don't like how you're trying to cancel fire here. What did fire ever do to you? Cooked your food, for one! Lighted your cave at night! Kept the beasts away!

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  Dirkjan Ochtmandjc@hachyderm.io

  Oct 26, 2026, 11:11 AM

  @joshbressers it's actually likely that helping the volunteers would cost less, but the cost would be paid upfront and the benefits of doing so aren't as legible.

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  Josh Bressersjoshbressers@infosec.exchange

  Oct 26, 2026, 12:07 PM

  @djc Yeah, pretty much this

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  Wee bullweebull@mastodon.social

  Oct 26, 2026, 1:44 PM

  @joshbressers Trouble is we don't root cause the problems. Just take the root cert issues.

  A company has shown it was not worthy of trust.
  Are we asking "How did they obtain a position of trust?"? No, because we know the answer is "they paid some money" .
  Are we evaluating who else is not worthy of trust? No, because the answer is they all paid money to be there and we don't want to stop people paying money.
  We just kick out the company that got caught.

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  Michael FourdraineVog@infosec.exchange

  Oct 26, 2026, 8:57 PM

  @joshbressers https://media3.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTZjMDliOTUyd2N1MDllaGI2d250cXRoMWxkeHNvcHZydXA3cnlsNnltOGhsc2ZreSZlcD12MV9pbnRlcm5hbF9naWZfYnlfaWQmY3Q9Zw/g79am6uuZJKSc/giphy.gif

  
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