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Charlie Strosscstross@wandering.shop
Aug 6, 2026, 11:54 AM
@art_of_goulwenr @quinn @dangillmor That misses out the revolutions that *succeeded*—the anti-communist wave of 1989-90, the colour revolutions of the early 00s, end result of which were a number of multi-party democracies, many in the EU (not yet including Ukraine, but hopefully soon). Or the end of Apartheid in South Africa. The key point is that non-violent revolutions are better. Violent ones only breed more violence.
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Quinn Nortonquinn@social.circl.lu
Aug 6, 2026, 12:32 PM
@cstross @art_of_goulwenr @dangillmor it's hard to generalize that so much. The South American revolutions remade many societies for good and ill, the US revolution was extremely successful on its own terms. Even Ukraine right now is arguably still fighting for its independence from. Russia, and few of us see that as pointless. All violent conflicts with deep societal change on the line.
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