@mike805 @alesroubicek @beeoproblem @mattly absolutely! my shower thought was how ISPs are majorly guilty for the issue. Bad oversight, ISP culture that doesn't care about IP reputation for some reason, CGNAT and anything else that allows IPs to be so ephemeral when they were really supposed to be... an address to you, but now they might as well just be considered purely for routing having been all been rentified. Also IANA doing nothing too. Without proactiveness on the issue IPv6 will be used exactly like this enshitifed IPv4 and that would be catastrophic.. an unbelievable amount of IPs to just cycle around and be careless with. It should be a way bigger concern for IANA, ISPs and governments that IPs are not doing what is on the can by the person they are rented to. There should be something to indicate that traffic is behind a proxy, something like the ISP/router could put a proxied traffic likely flag if there is incoming connections that match the volume of outgoing from the local ip it's assigned to + ways to prove that pattern is something other than a proxy if the user doesn't want the mark on their outgoing. But, there is really barely anything like that in the core design, it's all still pretending like there's only 1000 people on the internet lol; deferring all the reputation and usability of the internet to downstream services $$$, dynamic lists, cloudflare: lord of the modern internet, and the application layer. Rant +1