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Eggs now in different baskets.the_wub@mastodon.social
Jul 31, 2026, 1:29 PM
@tbegush @MarkHoltom Volvo released figures a few years ago for CO2 produced by manufacturing one of their electric SUVs.
It was of the order of 22-24 tonnes.
I did a quick calculation and it seems that using one of my smaller cars, say my Trabant that it would take 150,000 km of driving to emit the same amount of CO2.
So it would be interesting to know how long the carbon capture system would need to run to break even taking in account the amount of CO2 produced during construction.
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Mark Holtom (aka Kingbeard)MarkHoltom@mastodonapp.uk
Jul 31, 2026, 2:38 PM
@the_wub @tbegush
er., from memory. Volvo's figures where for a complete lifecycle, ie. build, use and recycle.
You can't compare that to jusr clocking up miles in a Trabant. You need to include build and recycling.
Incidentally Volvo's numbers also covered the figures for an equivalent ICE Volvo, annd it was much lower.
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Eggs now in different baskets.the_wub@mastodon.social
Jul 31, 2026, 4:19 PM
@MarkHoltom @tbegush
The figures I got in the Norwegian motoring press were just for build as far as I remember.
For me the point is that if I buy a new electric SUV and throw away the Trabant then I cause a large amount of CO2 to be emitted immediately.
If I continue to use the Trabant then it will take me many years to cause the same amount of CO2 to be emitted.
Whether the distance is 150,000 or 80,000 is not so important, both are still a lot more than my annual mileage.
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Eggs now in different baskets.the_wub@mastodon.social
Jul 31, 2026, 4:22 PM
@MarkHoltom @tbegush Note that people here in Norway tend to buy new cars on 5 year cycles so that they sell them with at least 2 years of factory guarantee on them.
Thus, every five years my neighbours buy a new car causing a large quantity of CO2 to be emitted when producing that car.
That allow me to justify driving my cars for at least another 5 more years as I will emit less CO2 than they do.
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Tutilurenn@mastodon.nu
Jul 31, 2026, 4:57 PM
@the_wub @MarkHoltom @tbegush
Energy mix matters a lot for calculating the breakeven mileage (run an EV long enough and it always wins).
Here are a few life cycle analysis of another (very high-speced, so don't compare with a trabant, please) vehicles from within Geely Group (to which Volvo Cars belongs):
https://www.polestar.com/global/sustainability/reports/life-cycle-assessment
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Tutilurenn@mastodon.nu
Jul 31, 2026, 5:01 PM
@the_wub @MarkHoltom @tbegush
Here is for a Volvo EX30 (fairly small electric SUV)
https://www.volvocars.com/assets/volvocm/globalpages/live/15A5B2C3FD154295815AED10F289AEAE/volvo_carbonfootprintreport_ex30.pdf
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