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  • Nov 8, 2026, 6:56 PM

    @knowprose @detritus @cwebber (speaking of which: do you also feel reverse-engineering bot slop is painful compared to r-e-ing human creations? Or is it a "me" thing?
    I have a part of me that I can't manage to shut off that constantly tries to model what went through the mind of the author, and author-less incoherent code makes that part run in circles in overdrive.)
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  • Nov 8, 2026, 6:58 PM

    @knowprose @detritus @cwebber [...]
    (It only happens while r-e-ing code. Whatching GenAI'd pixel slops doesn't come with pain, that one just feels souless. It's very obvious is the specific way it's overloaded that nobody went through tons of micro decision (let's say: as opposed to an overloaded picture by Mordillo) and it's just random noise crammed into a pictire)

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  • Nov 8, 2026, 7:10 PM

    @dryak @knowprose @detritus @cwebber I had to work on a slopped code base, and yeah, I hated it more than working on human code.
    But also, I hated the human who sold this work for 180k€, didn't know how to correctly do anything, so just chatgpt'd happily the whole thing.

    All his coworkers had to fix his mess, then, it was my turn.
    So knowing it was badly designed just because he couldn't give a shit made me angrier at fixing it.

    In general, when I saw bad design in other legacy projects, there was always a good reason behind, and after understanding, then you build empathy and respect for the previous builder.

    I have 0 empathy for scammers and their machine friends.

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  • Nov 8, 2026, 11:09 PM

    @dolanor
    isn't that the point where you just burn it down and write it new from scratch?

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  • Nov 8, 2026, 7:06 PM

    @dryak @knowprose @detritus @cwebber Part of the reason my team at my workplace is fairly gen-“AI”-allergic is that about 6 months ago, right as “agentic AI all the time” hype was near its peak, we were handed a pile of vibe code from a 3rd party contractor as a “start” on a major project.

    The bulk of the project was a single 3k line PR that nobody fully understood (certainly not the vibe code authors) and which my team spent about a month cleaning up bad design in (for example, the original version hammered 3rd party APIs so brutally we were getting rate limited almost immediately). Even the team members who like gen-“AI” as coding assistance keep themselves fully in the loop and have refused to adopt the “all agents, all the time” antipattern.

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  • Nov 8, 2026, 11:33 PM

    @knowprose @dpnash @dryak @detritus @cwebber My recollection was that he was successful at something and this was a tangential thing that he came up with. I really wish I could remember what it was exactly; it sounded like he did a great job of specifying it, he just went down the wrong path to get there.

    I suspect he just went back to doing whatever it was he was good at. Let's hope he didn't go for politics.

    Then again, as a politician, he might be a hell of a lot more informed about the limits of Gen-Ai than the rest of them!

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  • Nov 8, 2026, 11:40 PM

    @alan @dpnash @dryak @detritus @cwebber you raise very goid points.

    And as much as I don't like coding with sex toys, I do have to pause and remember I did stupid things too when I was young. Confidently.

    Perhaps even arrogantly.

    And older people did give me grace.

    So maybe I am being too hard.

    I hope he is doing something productive. But it would be good to know.

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