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  • Jul 10, 2026, 11:02 AM

    @michal I don't understand why people like delta chat so much. It seems a bit clumsy to me the frankenstein email for instant messaging. An if you host mail on gmail or outlook, than what is the point. I'd rather use #XMPP, a platform that makes sense

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  • Jul 10, 2026, 11:12 AM

    @jaj @michal it is a tradeoff. Indeed, email is not an optimal choice as a carrier, but it is the last protocol of that kind which survived in overall usage without becoming a walled garden (yet).

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  • Jul 10, 2026, 12:46 PM

    @jaj @michal

    It's a matter of taste.

    Delta has a somewhat centralized development model, i.e. all client (have to) use the same underlying framework. Writing an independent client from scratch is almost impossible, I've heard.

    In contrast, #Jabber/#XMPP is a diverse #ecosystem, grown over more than 27 years, applied to various use cases (even #IoT), an #openStandard by #IETF and #XSF.

    The former is easier and faster to develop for, but also has limitations. I personally prefer the latter.

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  • Jul 10, 2026, 11:19 AM

    @michal I'm glad to see it getting some talk. I've been talking about it as the telegram killer, because it can actually do what telegram lies about doing.

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  • Jul 10, 2026, 12:32 PM

    @michal

    I am conflicted.

    It's hard enough persuading people to switch from WhatsApp to Signal.

    Now with Delta Chat, they would also have to familiarise themselves with the new app (including the brand that they do not know) and set up a relay.

    I understand the appeal of distributed networks, but I've lost count of the number of people who have become confused when I've tried to explain what instances are on Mastodon. Now I'd have to have a similar discussion about a messaging app.

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  • Jul 10, 2026, 1:06 PM

    @jarekkopec that's all true, but I actually found it quite easy to switch some people to DC. The best example would be my aunt who doesn't care about the technical aspects and yet she was able to install the app by herself and started chatting right away. So give it a try, you might be surprised with how well people react to DC 😉

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  • Jul 10, 2026, 6:37 PM

    @michal

    « the desktop apps for Windows or macOS, or through the mobile apps for Android or iOS. »

    With no Linux desktop app it remains inaccessible to me.

    I'm very well away that I'm in a minority so vanishingly small it may approach 1. But still…

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  • Jul 10, 2026, 7:43 PM

    @calmeilles but there is an official Linux app! I suppose the author was targeting the mainstream audience and thus no mention of it.

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