eestileib (she/hers)eestileib@tech.lgbt
May 29, 2026, 7:06 PM@solonovamax @benjamineskola @MissConstrue @complexmath @nelson
"Turing-complete" and "capable of actually representing reality and reasoning about it" are two very different statements.
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Nelson Lopeznelson@wetdry.worldMay 29, 2026, 7:08 PM@eestileib @solonovamax @benjamineskola @MissConstrue @complexmath reminds me of how much brains actually suck as computers, real brains are full of noise, operate in non-linear scales and are mostly "single-threaded" even though every single neuron works somewhat independently
i think our first mistake was to mistake computation with consciousness
MissConstrueMissConstrue@mefi.socialMay 29, 2026, 7:21 PM@nelson @eestileib @solonovamax @benjamineskola @complexmath
I think you're on to something there. A lot of AI hype can be seen as a mass pareidoliac hallucination. We're seeing dragons in the clouds.
- eestileib (she/hers)eestileib@tech.lgbtMay 29, 2026, 7:43 PM
@MissConstrue @nelson @solonovamax @benjamineskola @complexmath
I don't blame random non techy people or people who don't claim to know any philosophy for thinking chatbots are intelligent when all of their social sources of proof (rich people, relatives, the people on tv and YouTube) say it is and it seems like it is.
I rely on social proof to pick what food I eat all the time, it's not such a bad reasoning method for stuff you can't research yourself.
But people with CS or math or history or philosophy degrees (including all PhDs) should be ashamed of themselves if they tell other people that chatbots "think" or are "alive" or "apologize" or "feel bad".
That is a failure to use their intellectual training, and it is fucking over people who use their social status to form opinions on these matters.
Generative Textual Functionalism is just yet another extractive religion.