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  • Anirban Mitramitradranirban@typo.social
    Dec 27, 2025, 6:27 PM

    @alis do dynamically written fonts (like kermit by @underware ) improve reading by dyslexics? Has scientific study been done on that?

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  • Not a Spring Onionwakame@tech.lgbt
    Dec 27, 2025, 7:13 PM

    @alis Interesting. That would mean that visual readers can't be dyslexic (since they are not matching glyphs to sounds).

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  • Licholicho@kolektiva.social
    Dec 29, 2025, 10:36 AM

    @wakame @alis my problems stopped when the adults stopped forcing me to read aloud. And they've been coming back whenever I was tasked to read something in the classroom.

    Despite that I have read hundreds if not thousands of books. And now, as a grown man I even learned to read aloud for my daughter. Instead of stumbling I'm fixing the reading problems by making stuff up so it still makes sense :D it seems like I'm reading fluently but in fact I'm changing a lot. Ot doesn't have to literally be what's there, right?

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  • Not a Spring Onionwakame@tech.lgbt
    Dec 29, 2025, 3:40 PM

    @licho @alis

    My experience when doing theater stuff.
    I could never remember the longer solo texts, so I just stayed true to the meaning, but not the words. :blobcatgiggle:

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  • CMDR Yojimbosan 🅅⁂yojimbo@masto.hackers.town
    Dec 27, 2025, 8:31 PM

    @stylus @alis I think it's more likely that there isn't one single cause of "dyslexia", and therefore a font that helps one person is indeed a font that helps that one person 🙂
    Trying to suggest that on font should help all people seems like an over-generalisation.

    If you want to know more about OpenDyslexic, you can always ask @antijingoist here. Some research shows positive results - opendyslexic.org/related-resea

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  • CMDR Yojimbosan 🅅⁂yojimbo@masto.hackers.town
    Dec 27, 2025, 8:56 PM

    @stylus @alis @antijingoist I mean, from a structural level I think the research pointed to is correct - dyslexia is not a visual-processing problem on its own. And people do indeed always sell fake solutions to real problems. But many people with dyslexia also have a set of other differences to deal with, and making their fonts consistent and easy to distinguish often helps them. It won't "fix" them though. No-one rational says that.

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  • minimoysmagicianminimoysmagician@tech.lgbt
    Dec 28, 2025, 12:55 AM

    @stylus @alis I have a dyslexic friend who's first order of business on a new system is to install OpenDyslexic, so it does help some people...

    I also used the font for a few other dyslexic people, and they had even more issues than before 😓

    Some anecdotal evidence in both ways ;)

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  • Licholicho@kolektiva.social
    Dec 29, 2025, 10:30 AM

    @minimoysmagician @stylus @alis me being dyslectic but highly compensated and trained for decades, when I stumbled upon the "special fonts" I wasn't able to recognize if they actually help me or not, thinking that maybe I'm not used to it and that's why it's not doing much for me. I imagined it probably does it for others. I considered replacing fonts on the websites I admin. Your friend might be doing that as well. Like a placebo effect. Only now I'm learning there's no point in it and I'm glad I waited.

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  • Berslbersl2@furry.engineer
    Dec 27, 2025, 8:24 PM

    @alis So where does this leave the idea that some dyslexic people prefer Comic Sans as a font? I don't think that comes from absolutely nowhere.

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  • irina 🐇🌷:eggbug:irina@critter.cafe
    Dec 27, 2025, 9:03 PM

    @bersl2 @alis it's a fairly legible font with letters that are distinct from each other - which is what actually helps legibility. same reason Atkinson Hyperlegible is good for some dyslexic people, even though it was designed for low-vision.

    the article is talking about fonts like Dyslexie, which are overall less legible but the trade-off was theoretically that they'd be better for dyslexia

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  • LupinoLupinoArts
    Dec 28, 2025, 9:19 AM

    @alis reminds me of this graph from Ellis & Young (1996) p. 222. Seems that, at best, "dyslexia fonts" help only in one of all those cases ("visual analysis system"), and if so then only if that cognitive process is not completely broken.

    Figure 8.3 from Ellis & Young (eds.) "Human Congitive Neuropsychology", Psychology Press, page 222 (ISBN 0-86377-715-5), which shows the cognitive functions that play a role in language processing, both auditive (listening, speaking) and visual (reading, writing). The image shows 13 isolated cognitive processes and various interconnections between those processes. At the center is the "Semantic System", which is responsible to connect language tokens with mental represenations. From there, there are multiple steps towards auditive input ("auditory analysis system"), auditive output ("phoneme level"), visual input ("Visual analysis system") and visual output ("graphic motor patterns"), each with intermediary cognitive processes and interconnections inbetween. The graph indicates that some of those modules can be bypassed. For instance, if the "auditory input lexicon" which is located between the "auditory analysis system" and the "semantic system" is broken, signals can still be processed via the route "auditory analysis system" to "phoneme level" to "speech output lexicon" to "semantic system", representing "self-repeating" to circumvent auditory language recognition deficiencies. Other cognitive modules in the graph are "visual input lexicon", "grapheme-phoneme conversion", "grapheme level", "allograph level", "graphic motor patterns"; "phoneme-grapheme conversion", "speech output lexicon", and "graphemic output lexicon".
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  • AtemuAtemu@darmstadt.social
    Dec 28, 2025, 3:11 PM

    @alis

    That's not true. There is some decent evidence and it fould no benefit in dyslexia fonts.

    That's a huge difference!

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