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  • AI6YR Benai6yr@m.ai6yr.org
    May 24, 2025, 11:33 PM

    @jensorensen LOL I once knew a fitness nut (went to the gym every day, only ate vegan, etc. etc.) who smoked 2 packs a day of cigarettes.

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  • me_valentijnme_valentijn@m.ai6yr.org
    May 25, 2025, 8:13 AM

    @ai6yr @jensorensen
    Addiction is addicting 😔

    Apparently the fitness scene can have a similar impact, with the endorphins released during exertion.

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  • Leealepaggoth@mastodon.social
    May 25, 2025, 2:09 PM

    @ai6yr @jensorensen I used to clean a gym, and there was certain people who came to run a treadmill for half an hour, chewed a whole package of nicotine gum while at treadmill and then rushed outside to smoke. Don't want to think what condition their lungs were in...

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  • AI6YR Benai6yr@m.ai6yr.org
    May 25, 2025, 4:29 PM

    @lepaggoth @jensorensen yeah, the guy I knew was one of those folks. Crazy obsessed with health and fitness and "clean eating" but smoked like crazy LOL. (we did say: "hey, if you're so concerned about your health, QUIT SMOKING")

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  • AI6YR Benai6yr@m.ai6yr.org
    May 25, 2025, 5:55 PM

    @llewelly @jensorensen Unrelated, the son of one of my next door neighbors had a similar thing going on, was obsessed with nutrition and weightlifting, but was also totally on steroids. Lived with his mom, basically an adult child whose only work was occasionally working for a junk hauling company. I got along well with him, but he died a few years ago of massive cardiac arrest, I am pretty sure because of those same steroids.

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  • Michael Buschmichael_w_busch@mastodon.online
    May 24, 2025, 11:47 PM

    @jensorensen @ai6yr

    When gluten-free-as-a-fad-diet was big; I encountered people who would say things like "I am gluten-free except for pizza".

    Then I would have to explain to them that that is not how it works for those of us with celiac.

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  • Nazonazokiyoubinbou@urusai.social
    May 25, 2025, 12:01 AM

    @michael_w_busch @jensorensen @ai6yr I wish food fads like those would go away. It costs all the rest of us so much more in particular because "organic" took over so much. Growing "organic" costs more, uses more resources (including water, fertilizer, and land,) and of course the "certifications" cost too if they want an "official" "certification."

    I still see "gluten free" on all kinds of things that are just stupid. I guess it's good to know there is no wheat germ in your tea? Hopefully it doesn't cost extra but who knows in some cases...

    So far every single attempt to prove non-celiac disease gluten sensitivity actually exists has failed. Double blind studies have all shown it doesn't. I can't imagine how frustrating those people are for people with actual celiac disease.

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  • Michael Buschmichael_w_busch@mastodon.online
    May 25, 2025, 12:11 AM

    @nazokiyoubinbou @jensorensen @ai6yr

    I used to think that "gluten free" labels on tea did not make sense. Then I visited South Korea and China and had to learn how to identify barley in tea by smell.

    But I really could do without the fad diet phenomenon of things being marketed as "gluten free" and then having "if you have celiac or wheat allergy, don't eat this" in the fine print.

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  • Nazonazokiyoubinbou@urusai.social
    May 25, 2025, 12:13 AM

    @michael_w_busch @jensorensen @ai6yr Tea was just a random example I made up. I see it on all kinds of things that never touched wheat in any setting in any country. I think barely teas are labeled as such? Should they even develop gluten though?

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  • Queer Like The Slurcoolandnormal@aus.social
    May 25, 2025, 12:04 AM

    @michael_w_busch @jensorensen @ai6yr when I was a child my family kept a gluten free kitchen and always took gluten free stuff to local events.

    We would constantly have people saying "I'll have the gluten free one, I'm trying to lose weight/it's healthy" and pick up one gluten free cake to go with their otherwise normal meal.

    The cake would always be mostly butter and sugar.

    In the late 90s there was a pervasive belief in australia that you could get healthy by putting a blob of butter and sugar with your meal. As long as the butter/sugar blob contains no gluten (your meal can have gluten though).

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  • me_valentijnme_valentijn@m.ai6yr.org
    May 25, 2025, 8:03 AM

    @michael_w_busch @jensorensen @ai6yr
    Non-allergic and non-celiac inflammatory reactions aren't a new or imaginary thing. And with my recent onset of extreme lactose intolerance, I can appreciate the very weird locations in which unexpected foods can be found. Eg, milk-free bread is the exception, not the norm.

    And as with lactose intolerance, I could imagine that someone who can't handle much gluten on a regular basis might opt to stomach the discomfort from time to time to indulge in a treat 🤷‍♀️

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  • raeGreyq@mastodon.social
    May 25, 2025, 12:50 AM

    @jensorensen this is the very thing that has baffled me about these groups. They're obsessed with stuff in the air, or microplastics, but also often support groups who have very clearly loosened regulations allowing more microplastics in food.

    I know the answer is that education is underfunded, and they just haven't learned critical thinking, but I don't like that answer. All their talk about research, it's very unsatisfying how little it actually matters to them.

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  • Leather Cub Andrew AûLeatherCubAndrew@4bear.com
    May 25, 2025, 1:31 AM

    @jensorensen oh this definitely reminds me of a bunch of YouTube advertisements... like almost every frame on the comic is ironically enough a reference to a hypocritical ad aimed at suckers.

    I get particularly annoyed about ones that reference "Dr Steven Gundry" because it's all anti-science marketing BS.... and don't get me started on the products Chuck Norris is selling....

    That being said there are probably tiny fragments of truth in a lot of these that end up getting distorted...

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  • Knut 🏳️‍🌈 🇳🇴🧸praetor@mstdn.social
    May 25, 2025, 3:56 AM

    @jensorensen I have PTSD and really bad anxiety that can get debilitating at times. And some guy told me I was filling the pockets of big pharma and maybe my anxiety meds were causing...anxiety. Nope. That's Alpha Boar Plus you're thinking of.

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  • michielmichiel@social.tchncs.de
    May 25, 2025, 9:00 AM

    @jensorensen their behaviour is rational in a way; these types of people treat health as a competition. If the average gets worse, that makes them look better.

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  • Lightlight@noc.social
    May 25, 2025, 11:45 AM

    @jensorensen
    >I lift but hate seat belts
    Where's the contradiction?
    Seat belts are enforced by law, unlike lifting.
    That's what they are against, not seatbelts per se.
    @erici

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  • Sylvainaxnxcamr@mstdn.ca
    May 25, 2025, 1:04 PM

    @light @jensorensen @erici

    So they are just contrarians. If the government said "obligations for everyone to exercise daily" they would just stop doing it.

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  • Lightlight@noc.social
    May 25, 2025, 7:14 PM

    @axnxcamr
    Or maybe they would continue doing what the fuck they want regardless of what the government obliges.
    Are we talking about libertarians here or some other group?
    @jensorensen @erici

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