Me: *looks at midterm election results*
“Oh!”
Cautiously, very good.
Will we see impeachment proceedings? I think the possibility exists.
Me: *looks at midterm election results*
“Oh!”
Cautiously, very good.
Will we see impeachment proceedings? I think the possibility exists.
@bloor Surely they would be imtangerinement proceedings? He's gone beyond peach.
@bloor on what grounds, and then wouldn’t that just give JD Vance a head start on the next presidential election?
@theolodian I am pretty confident there are plenty of grounds a suitably minded house and senate could find. All the Russia stuff, the strait of Hormuz, Iran, the insider/family investing and pumping. Probably plenty of options.
@bloor @theolodian there was someone on the radio yesterday arguing reasonably that there's no point in trying to impeach him *again*, and the smart play is to go after *all* his underlings instead.
On the basis that he'll be a lame duck for a couple of years and then gone, so it's better to cut off the next generation
@ahnlak @theolodian Doesn't the idea of going after underlings rather go out the window with "Presidential Pardon" as an option? I realise he could just issue a sweep of them immediately impeachment proceedings started too.
@bloor @theolodian you can't use those pardons for impeachment, apparently
@ahnlak @theolodian I wasn't saying you could. What I was saying was Trump could easily protect all his underlings by simply pardoning the whole lot of them.
@bloor @theolodian he can certainly try, but that assumes they're all still in his favour at that point.
There's also limitations around "pre-emptive pardons" so they might just keep quiet about it until he leaves?
Yep that is the most insidious use of kingly power they need to get rid of ASAP.... but they won't!
@bloor there will be loads of investigations, and a lot of pressure to impeach. Ultimately impeachment is a political judgment, not a criminal one. However, it further undermines trust in politics if they don’t have a reasonable legal justification for impeachment.
@theolodian @bloor Yeh and in some ways Vance appears to be worse than Trump.
The democrats mustn't scare off the wavering voters they've gained if they actually want to get a president in.
@penguin42 @bloor the problem is that midterms are an election without a manifesto. There is a wide range of politics amongst these new congresspeople. I’ll be amazed if they agree on a coherent approach.
@bloor I doubt it.