I am tired of watching (and dealing with the fallout of) progressives/the center left/"liberals" across the west giving up on the idea of universal human rights and instead fighting to throw people to the fascists to save their own skin.
It never works. Fight where you stand or die where you kneel.
Yup. If you appease fascists, they will see it as encouragement to demand even more. It makes them hungrier.
@dymaxion no one was particularly surprised when the centre right turned out to be the far right. but i am pretty sure a lot of people were shocked when it was revealed that the centre left was also the far right.
@dymaxion 100%.
@dymaxion These people are weak and pathetic.
55% of voters didn't even bother to vote in BC. They just handed the keys to a bunch of fascists.
Oct 26, 2026, 3:43 PM@RobotDiver @dymaxion And did you consider *why* they didn't? Voter disenfranchisement and disillusionment don't happen in a vacuum. Blame the cause, not the symptom. (and no, I'm not saying don't vote)
@sbk
@RobotDiver It turns out that when parties push to the right, folks on the left get disillusioned. Politicians could try giving people stuff to vote for, not just against.
You know, just spit-balling wildly here
@RobotDiver
@sbk To be clear, my original content was made in the context of so-called progressives who are fine with the idea that members of an immediately at-risk minority weren't down with the idea of voting for candidates who are actively supporting the genocide that is targeting them. In which case the answer is literally "if we die, we're taking you with us". And yes, I agree that I expect nothing less from said progressives than them sitting back, watching people die, and bitching about people who aren't being nice to them in the process. They've made their choice and apparently don't care who they hurt, so maybe they'll learn to care when it's them or their partner being murdered.
Oct 27, 2026, 3:45 PM@RobotDiver @dymaxion I don't disagree, but it's a direct causal result and waaaay too many people seem to forget that. Instead they fall for the constant distraction theater and get pulled into the never-ending spiral of "now isn't the time for that discussion, you just need to vote for XYZ or you're letting the enemy win!". Which, by the way, has been the battle cry for anyone currently living's entire life. This is decades/centuries in the making.
Yes, people not participating is a huge problem in a system that's supposedly designed around it (I'd argue that's an illusion, but that's a different discussion entirely). HOWEVER, the reasons it occurs at a large scale can't be overlooked... and unfortunately that's precisely what any party always relying on being considered the lesser of two evils wants. Turns out when you don't represent the people in any way, betray every out-group that's convenient to throw into the furnace, and systematically assist in marching everything further into the abyss people (rightly) lose hope.
It's not about handing everything to the worst people (that's the exploitive over-simplification I'm trying to address), nor is it "both parties are exactly the same"... it's about the fact that the system and those in it are rotten to the core, ultimately serve the same masters ($$$), and above all else just want to stay in their cushy seats of power.
When you're perpetually fed a shit sandwich with the "choice" of arsenic vs sprinkles you eventually choose starvation as the preferred alternative. It's not a *good* choice, but it's what should be expected.
I think I get frustrated that at least here, most people see voting as their only political requirement. There is so much to be done. Outside of voting it seems like no one does anything, and anti-voters even less. If there was opposition and action surrounding the current system it would be one thing, but there isn't much of that in BC and what does happen gets crushed quickly.
I have friends with multimillion dollar law suits against them now, for even attempting to protest. Half the voters voted for that party and the others voted for one even worse. The BC Greens were literally running on healthcare, taxing the ultra wealthy and election reform and everyone was just like, nah.
