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  • Apr 5, 2026, 9:12 PM

    @codebam @GrapheneOS

    They dont provide privacy. So a promise is already broken. But beyond that, privacy cannot exist without security. They arent mutually exclusive, they are intertwined. To ignore security means you are not a privacy project.

    E/ is not better at degoogling. GrapheneOS does not connect to any google servers, run any google play code, have any privilege google services, etc. Sandboxed google play is sandboxed and must be installed by the user. All default connections are to first party servers hosted by GOS. It is not more involved to get the same apps, google or otherwise.

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  • Apr 6, 2026, 3:49 AM

    @HybridStaticAnimate @codebam @GrapheneOS

    That it must be installed by the user doesn't make it different.

    IMHO the two app stores included in GrapheneOS are not sufficient for the vast majority of users.

    If "every" user needs to install it to have a usable phone, it really is part of the attack surface.
    (And yes, I'm aware the Play services are sandboxed on GrapheneOS which improves privacy and security)

    It's a bit like delivering a computer without network functionality because it reduces the attack surface, and then blaming the user if they install network drivers.

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  • Apr 6, 2026, 1:12 PM

    @realn2s @HybridStaticAnimate @codebam

    > IMHO the two app stores included in GrapheneOS are not sufficient for the vast majority of users.

    Our own App Store is the only one included in GrapheneOS. We don't bundle third party apps and services into the OS. Using those is entirely a user choice and will remain that way.

    Our App Store provides Accrescent and the Play Store. If you think other apps such as Obtainium should be easily available then get those to submit their apps into Accrescent.

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