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  • Oct 24, 2026, 8:26 PM

    This is Hamming, in 1980, “The unreasonable effectivity of mathematics”.

    > My first real experience in the use of mathematics to predict things in the real world was in connection with the design of atomic bombs during the Second World War. How was it that the numbers we so patiently computed on the primitive relay computers agreed so well with what happened on the first test shot at Almagordo? There were, and could be, no small-scale experiments to check the computations directly. Later experience with guided missiles showed me that this was not an isolated phenomenon-constantly what we predict from the manipulation of mathematical symbols is realized in the real world. Naturally, working as I did for the Bell System, I did many telephone computations and other mathematical work on such varied things as traveling wave tubes, the equalization of television lines, the stability of complex communication systems, the blocking of calls through a telephone central office, to name but a few. For glamour, I can cite transistor research, space flight, and computer design, but almost all of science and engineering has used extensive mathematical manipulations with remarkable successes.

    doi.org/10.1080/00029890.1980.

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  • Oct 24, 2026, 8:30 PM

    @antoinechambertloir compare this with James Lighthill in 1986, so also post Ed Lorenz '63.

    ‘Here I have to pause, and to speak once again on behalf of the broad global fraternity of practitioners of mechanics. We are all deeply conscious today that the enthusiasm of our forebears for the marvellous achievements of Newtonian mechanics led them to make generalizations in this area of predictability which, indeed, we may have generally tended to believe before 1960, but which we now recognize were false. We collectively wish to apologize for having misled the general educated public by spreading ideas about the determinism of systems satisfying Newton’s laws of motion that, after 1960, were to be proved incorrect’.

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  • Oct 24, 2026, 8:39 PM

    @frincon This is nice, and having read Prigogine's general audience books when I was younger (as well as Ekeland's beautiful *Le calcul, l'imprévu*), I was fond of this apparently unpredictable behavior of completely deterministic phenomena. I've drawn a fair load of Mandelbrot and Julia sets (do you remember, @nholzschuch ?)

    But what stroke me is the warfare content of both quotations I copied. Shannon wants computers to take decisions at war (in fact, this is in a war context that he formed his main mathematical ideas about communication) and it is in a war context that Hamming observed the effectiveness of mathematics.

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