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  • Nina Kalininanina_kali_nina@tech.lgbt
    Aug 20, 2026, 9:25 PM

    Speaking of LLM-free Linux kernel: I wonder if Linux-CIP could be a good start for one. No idea what is their stance on LLMs, but they plan to support 5.10 until 2031 as per cip-project.org/
    Obviously they're sponsored by the corporate, but at least they're only porting security patches into the kernel 🤔

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  • Aug 20, 2026, 9:39 PM

    @nina_kali_nina corporate doesn't necessarily means bad. Some corporations need a reliable and secure kernel, which, at the moment, means slop-free.

    This is different from corporations working on upstream, who mainly need their own hardware or specific feature supported, by any means necessary.

    I don't expect CIP to ban LLMs on ethical or environmental reasons, but they may do it for other reasons, or at least have a more careful approach.

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  • Nina Kalininanina_kali_nina@tech.lgbt
    Aug 20, 2026, 9:45 PM

    @pulkomandy If nothing else, the CIP project hints at what it takes to maintain an SLTS Linux kernel (multiple engineers full-time). Perhaps it might be even possible to support a single architecture by a very small number of people.

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  • Aug 20, 2026, 9:57 PM

    @nina_kali_nina they do more than just a kernel, there's an entire Linux distro to build it and I think it's not done in the simplest way (when I looked into it, I think it was some Debian/Yocto hybrid?)

    Anyway, long before LLMs I had already concluded that Linux is not for normal humans like me, which is why I ended up elsewhere for my hersonal needs.

    For my paid job all I can do is try to convince the SoC vendor to sync themselves with CIP so I'm not the one doing the SLTS support...

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  • Aug 20, 2026, 11:32 PM

    @nina_kali_nina Redox has the strictest LLM policy I have seen, and has gotten Balatro working. Depending on what you call "Linux", that might be an option.

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  • Nina Kalininanina_kali_nina@tech.lgbt
    Aug 20, 2026, 11:38 PM

    @xevra good point, I haven't tried it just yet, because I'm not a big fan of Rust (don't particularly hate either, just, aah, shrug)

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