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  • Dualtronicfelix@wandering.shop
    Oct 22, 2026, 8:57 AM

    @afilina I spent 15 years doing pro web development on PHP. Wasted time I won't get back working around its quirks because it was the only game in town.

    I lost a WordPress blog and months of work to security bugs that PHP indirectly enabled.

    PHP was looking so much better as of version 7. I let myself hope that maybe things had changed. That it could be trusted for small projects again. Now this.

    And you're berating me for (checks notes) feeling betrayed.

    How about no.

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  • Till Kleislikleisli@mastodon.social
    Oct 22, 2026, 9:16 AM

    @felix really? You feel betrayed because there was a security bug in a free software that got fixed quickly?
    We could also argue if wordpress is pro web development, that framework layer comes with its own bunch of problems. I also work with PHP for 20 years now, and I don't remember any other bug that lead to websites shutting down until it was patched. @afilina

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  • Ondrej ZizkaOndrejZizka@mastodon.social
    Oct 22, 2026, 10:01 AM

    @kleisli @felix @afilina I do remember such bugs, and one of them was the reason I switched to another ecosystem. Going around 30 webs to change the usage of a core function after a MICRO release changed the semantics is not something I want to go through with any stack.

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  • Ondrej ZizkaOndrejZizka@mastodon.social
    Oct 22, 2026, 10:23 AM

    @kleisli @felix @afilina Oh and by the way... That's no disrespect or hostility.

    I am grateful to PHP for allowing me learning server-side web dev when my only other option was MS IIS with JScript (sic) and it's bindings to "OLE" objects for anything meaningful (mail, db ...) and Java was still the terrible EJB 2.0. And the rest was either Perl or C / C++ through CGI. With no frameworks existing. So yeah it had it's role, but web dev evolved, so did frameworks, but the core PHP did not.

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