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  • Till Kleislikleisli@mastodon.social
    Oct 22, 2026, 9:16 AM

    @felix really? You feel betrayed because there was a security bug in a free software that got fixed quickly?
    We could also argue if wordpress is pro web development, that framework layer comes with its own bunch of problems. I also work with PHP for 20 years now, and I don't remember any other bug that lead to websites shutting down until it was patched. @afilina

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  • Ondrej ZizkaOndrejZizka@mastodon.social
    Oct 22, 2026, 10:01 AM

    @kleisli @felix @afilina I do remember such bugs, and one of them was the reason I switched to another ecosystem. Going around 30 webs to change the usage of a core function after a MICRO release changed the semantics is not something I want to go through with any stack.

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  • Ondrej ZizkaOndrejZizka@mastodon.social
    Oct 22, 2026, 10:23 AM

    @kleisli @felix @afilina Oh and by the way... That's no disrespect or hostility.

    I am grateful to PHP for allowing me learning server-side web dev when my only other option was MS IIS with JScript (sic) and it's bindings to "OLE" objects for anything meaningful (mail, db ...) and Java was still the terrible EJB 2.0. And the rest was either Perl or C / C++ through CGI. With no frameworks existing. So yeah it had it's role, but web dev evolved, so did frameworks, but the core PHP did not.

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