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  • Jun 10, 2026, 8:07 PM

    Recently I had a chance to be publicly credited in a book for influence that I had in private that had a downstream effect I consider positive, in line with my career goals, but that happened informally. Being credited also would have made it clear that certain parts of my vision for the future are not just things I ripped off of more famous researchers who, by default, get attributed for parts of the vision we share, even when the influence is mutual. This involved a popular science publisher that, in the past, had ignored me when writing about my field of expertise many times, even when other researchers had sent them my name. Even getting interviewed was a first for me for this publisher!

    That chance was quashed when the relevant influence was cut from the book. Now there is just a hole there. I have been replaced in the book by the muse of a famous researcher, nameless and never explicitly mentioned. I am a hole.

    I am actually very depressed about this, even though it feels irrational to have ever expected this to work out. I know these informal sources of influence are usually left to recommendation letters. I know in this case that I have access to such a letter and that it can make my tenure case. I know that the researcher tried his best and this is more about the author and publisher of the book. And the author has even apologized to me.

    But the chance of having this published in a book, as something I could cite and even show my parents, got my hopes up so high. Now the book is sitting on the floor of the entrance to my house, right where I dropped it when I first picked it up and had those hopes quashed. I'm left wondering why, time and time again, I play the role of the nameless muse.

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  • Jun 10, 2026, 8:26 PM

    @irene I guess I can understand that things get cut from books during revisions and editing? But conveniently, Quanta always manages to cut almost everyone who is not a famous man

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  • Jun 10, 2026, 8:29 PM

    @TaliaRinger right. And maybe you can’t see the pattern if you are a famous man but saying sorry and acknowledging it and doing nothing is kind of the worst.

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  • Jun 10, 2026, 8:34 PM

    @irene The author of the book is not the famous researcher FWIW, they are two separate people, the famous researcher is the one who gave my name to the author to begin with and who did directly credit me

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  • Jun 10, 2026, 8:36 PM

    @TaliaRinger ok but the point is still the same that they recognize the problem and are choosing not to do anything about it. Because it just feels like this wouldn’t have happened if you were the famous researcher

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  • Jun 10, 2026, 9:06 PM

    @irene Yeah I wrote back to him again. I don't know what I can expect though. My last email included this:

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    It feels weird to want to be credited for a coffee conversation, and I think if [famous researcher] had not viewed that conversation as particularly influential, then it would not matter. And if there had not been such an apt opportunity for that credit, for the sort of book that looks into the lore and the social situations behind all of this, it also would not matter. But since he did and told you that, and since such an opportunity did present itself, it feels bad to have the influence erased. Now, the vision we arrived at with strong mutual influence is presented as something [famous researcher] just sort of arrived at one day, maybe with some influence from [somewhat famous male researcher with strong fun personality]---the sort of personality nobody erases from any story.

    I know everyone will assume that the vision flowed from [famous researcher] to me and that there was not any flow in the other direction. And I can rectify this easily in my tenure case with [famous researcher]'s letter, and I can rectify this to my friends, but I cannot rectify this in the recording of history. And I cannot stop thinking about this because, for all of the technical work I've done with my lab, that impromptu email I sent to [famous researcher] asking for coffee when I was in town may have actually been the most influential move of my career. It would have been nice for that to have gone down in history.

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