Stefano Marinellistefano@bsd.cafe
Oct 14, 2026, 4:10 PMRE: https://social.vivaldi.net/@lproven/117434563465392610
Which basically means: Let's continue to be ourselves.
Go, #NetBSD !
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No Fate: Butlerian Jihad Nowglitzersachen@hachyderm.ioOct 14, 2026, 4:19 PM@stefano What's the current position of FreeBSD? I didn't follow closely and the search engine only pulls up documents from around 2025 "to be further discussed in BSDCan 2025" ...
- Stefano Marinellistefano@bsd.cafeOct 14, 2026, 4:20 PM
@glitzersachen as far as I know, it's still uncertain...
- No Fate: Butlerian Jihad Nowglitzersachen@hachyderm.ioOct 14, 2026, 4:36 PM
At least delaying (while being cautious) is an acceptable approach. I wish I had engaged a bit more so I could influence the process now --- but I have unfortunately zero patience with cultists and that's likely a certain percentage of the participants in ANY discussion on AI use. So maybe it's better like this.
I'll, anyway build my virtualization server on FreeBSD for the moment. As Linux user of 3 decades that's really breaking my heart, but what can I do. My trust that the Linux community will take the right decisions (and in my case that would mean: Following a Unix philosophy) has definitely run out, after: Gnome, Wayland, Systemd and now the AI use thing all over the place. Not that the ideas were always wrong, but, my God, the implementation and the politics.
The important thing to me is, that changes are thought through .... instead of being the next super-feature required by some corporate interest. And while I see this in the BSDs (I am a bit of a hobby historian) Linux has been failing us there for a long time (I partly blame Redhat).
- Stefano Marinellistefano@bsd.cafeOct 14, 2026, 4:45 PM
@glitzersachen unfortunately, many actors in the Linux world are now distant from the original Unix philosophy. Posix doesn't mean much anymore, and portability is not that important.
Years ago, Linux people were so disappointed by the "Windows only" approach that used to be more attentive to the other Unices' compatibility. Now, many just say "Just use Linux". Which is unacceptable. Not because I don't want to use Linux (I actually do!), but because you're transforming yourself in what once was your worst enemy.I'm choosing FreeBSD and illumos based OSes for most of my workloads, and OpenBSD, NetBSD for the ones that make them appropriate. Linux for the others.
Johan_nibbles@mastodon.socialOct 14, 2026, 5:13 PM- Johan_nibbles@mastodon.socialOct 14, 2026, 5:16 PM
If only hardware manufacturers would be more opensource friendly we could have all sorts of OS
Xenotarxenotar@mastodon.socialOct 15, 2026, 4:20 AM@stefano @glitzersachen The best summary of the current situation—I couldn't describe it any better.
mirabilos🐈⬛mirabilos@toot.mirbsd.orgOct 14, 2026, 4:53 PM@glitzersachen @stefano they build on LLVM (which is highly LLM slop) and have quite some amount of slop vommits in other areas including the kernel.
- No Fate: Butlerian Jihad Nowglitzersachen@hachyderm.ioOct 14, 2026, 4:55 PM
Ah, shit. These days, it seems, we have to audit the whole "stack". How I hate living post 2025.
matthew greenmrgtwentythree@mastodon.sdf.orgOct 15, 2026, 9:52 PM@stefano i'm worried about the upstreams we depend upon. like x11 and graphics drivers..
