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  • Oct 14, 2026, 11:49 AM

    what do I recommend? fuck another OS. hold these motherfuckers responsible. why in fuck should Torvalds have a place in polite company anymore? why in fuck should Stallman? any the Linux Foundation employees? any of the slop-loving fuckers at the OSI? why should any of the people whose actual job it was to stop this shit get away with not doing their work?

    and no Stallman isn’t anti-AI. you can’t fucking tell me that the guy who’s so against proprietary software he prefers when his shit doesn’t work on anyone else’s hardware conveniently decided to be soft now, in the moment when it matters. one strong word from any of the FOSS organizations could’ve slowed or stopped this outcome. but no, none of the boys who assured us their licenses and their legal might would protect us could be fucking bothered

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  • Oct 14, 2026, 11:55 AM

    @zzt I think you're right on, but we should also take over the FSF and issue GPL 4.0: Butlerian Jihad Edition.

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  • Oct 14, 2026, 12:05 PM
    @porkroll
    ...and make sure that their website site links to distros people would want to use, instead of the ~10 that happen to use the Linux-Libre kernel.
    (of these distros Trisquel is okay, and some people here swear by Guix)

    [I assume this is what @zzt meant by Stallman being "so against proprietary software he prefers when his shit doesn't work on anyone else's hardware"]
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  • Oct 14, 2026, 3:29 PM

    @porkroll @zzt the fsf should close shop and wither and die actually . theyre at fault for all of this at the end of the day

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  • Oct 14, 2026, 11:57 AM

    @zzt What, exactly, does holding them responsible entail, to you?

    Because I don't really think they care if a bunch of largely marginal figures hold them responsible, especially when the corporate money firehose is pointed straight at them (for the moment)

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  • Oct 14, 2026, 1:29 PM

    @zzt I'm not being glib. I'm just some random industrial electronics dev; Linus isn't going to care if I "hold him responsible". I don't have power to hire or fire, and I also don't have power to decide swapping out a 20+ year-old Linux platform with, say, NetBSD (which, as you said before, also isn't enough). At the moment, in my field ditching Linux realistically means either Windows IoT or Industrial Android, and they're not exactly better on this front.

    I'm not going to base my own personal projects on Linux going forward, but once again - Linus isn't going to care about some hobbyist computational toymaker walking away. He's not going to care if 10000 hobbyist computational toymakers go away; he serves the big corporations.

    What I'm driving at, I guess, is that there is a power imbalance, and it is very hard for the powerless to hold the powerful accountable.

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  • Oct 14, 2026, 1:12 PM

    @zzt after stallman pushed back on me in the weirdest possible way when i proposed fixing the emacs configure script and bootstrapping known-good deps instead of LLM-riddled and actually backdoored shit a couple weeks ago i'm still evaluating whether he's controlled opposition the whole damn time

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