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  • Oct 9, 2026, 3:42 AM

    A few ways to spell "enough". The full list in the OED entry is several times as long. Thankfully "enoȝ" *is* one of them. These are just ones from Middle English.

    [ Edited to correct the alt-text: 108 spellings here, not just 101. But I've most likely miscounted again. ]

    If I counted correctly, 108 variants of "enough" used in Middle English, many looking quite outlandish to modern eyes
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  • Oct 9, 2026, 8:30 AM

    @timtfj Isn't spelling fun!? Especially how it has changed over the centuries.

    Written Hawaiian is much simpler. 13 letters: 5 vowels, 8 consonants. Each is pronounced consistently. The vowels also form dipthongs that are also pronounced consistently.

    Add the 'okina (glottal stop) and the kahako (macron to distinguish long vowels from short vowels), and you have ever written character.

    I think these are all reasons why Hawaiian is such a beautiful language for singing!

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  • Oct 10, 2026, 9:36 AM

    @mdione @timtfj I used to speak Spanish, never tried Italian.

    The big controversy when written Hawaiian was being developed was how to write the sound English calls the letter L. The people developing it couldn't decide between using L or R.

    So they typeset and printed some passages using each option and presented them to the king of Hawaii, who decided he liked how it looked with L better than with R.

    Small things, eh?

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  • Oct 10, 2026, 11:46 AM

    @dancingtreefrog @timtfj I would say also very good, for the L English sound I, coming from Spanish, prefer the L letter because the mechanism is more similar than to R.

    Then there's the fact that for Sino-Japanese[1] languages, they confuse both sounds, and I don't know exactly why.

    [1] not an academic, so I don't know the right term.

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  • Oct 10, 2026, 1:09 PM

    @mdione @dancingtreefrog I don't know any of those languages, but don't they use a sound which is more or less midway between our R an L? So R and L will just sound like variants of that phoneme, not two different ones?

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  • Oct 10, 2026, 1:18 PM

    @timtfj @dancingtreefrog that's above my knowledge. I only think in terms of how I move the parts of my mouth to produce the sound. R is a quick tap of the roof, L is more "soft" (sorry, again, not an academic, I lack the words.), a more gentle close/open movement. I'm not sure you can do the same tap with the English L, maybe the Indian R is the closest.

    In Spanish and Italian, RR is worse, it's a trill.

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