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Slava Pestovslava@mathstodon.xyz
Oct 7, 2026, 3:27 PM
@steve @joe The “I need to design my own programming language -> operating system -> CPU -> VLSI CAD system -> programming language” doom loop
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Joe Groffjoe@f.duriansoftware.com
Oct 7, 2026, 3:29 PM
@slava @steve looking back to BASIC, FORTH, LISP, and Smalltalk, perhaps it was when we started treating a "programming language" as separate from the "operating system" that we started straying from the light
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xanxan@xantronix.social
Oct 7, 2026, 3:36 PM
@joe @slava @steve fighting similar intrusive thoughts to throw my 11-year-old programming language project away because "wow, this should not require a runtime nor a heap allocator to function if I am going to use this to rebuild civilisation on a microcontroller"
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🕸️ Posting to the World Wide Spider Web on my Macabre Air 🧟‍♀️quephird@tech.lgbt
Oct 7, 2026, 3:52 PM
@slava @steve @joe
ᵘʰ ᵒʰ
uh oh
UH OH
IS THIS WHERE I’M HEADED???
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sofia ☮️🏴sofia@chaos.social
Oct 7, 2026, 4:00 PM
@slava @steve @joe first i'm gonna make my own (much better) math 😎.
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Joe Groffjoe@f.duriansoftware.com
Oct 7, 2026, 4:10 PM
@sofia @slava @steve isn't making up new math already all mathematicians do
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I Can't Believe It's Not Zero!steve
Oct 7, 2026, 4:15 PM
@joe @sofia @slava https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9mc7eb1i9o4
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zwarichzwarich@hachyderm.io
Oct 7, 2026, 4:36 PM
@slava @steve @joe I have worked on PLs, OSes, CPUs, EDA tools, and have thought about writing my own of each. I have restrained myself from forming the forbidden cycle, even hypothetically.
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Slava Pestovslava@mathstodon.xyz
Oct 7, 2026, 5:46 PM
@zwarich @steve @joe I have yet to take the first step from PLs to OSes, but when I do I think I’ll start by designing the computer algebra system that will be the operating system’s shell
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Slava Pestovslava@mathstodon.xyz
Oct 7, 2026, 5:50 PM
@zwarich @steve @joe The boot process is encoded as a series of rewriting rules, with dependencies between services represented by an adjacency matrix
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I Can't Believe It's Not Zero!steve
Oct 7, 2026, 5:52 PM
@slava @zwarich @joe oh no
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Per Vognsenpervognsen@mastodon.social
Oct 7, 2026, 5:58 PM
@slava @zwarich @steve @joe KBOS
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Eli the Beardedelithebearded@fed.qaz.red
Oct 7, 2026, 7:45 PM
@slava @steve @joe
The “I need to design my own programming language -> operating system -> CPU -> VLSI CAD system -> programming language -> port Doom to it” doom loop
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