@techokami @netbsd hooray!
Disk imaging is genuinely hard. I personally prefer tools that have a graphical interface because it helps me to visualise what and where I write. But it is what it is with dd :(
Oct 4, 2026, 6:35 PM@nina_kali_nina @netbsd okay next question: how do I get my wifi configured from here to start downloading and installing all the things I am missing?
@techokami @netbsd sysinst - configure - network, and it hopefully should show you the network card. If it can, then you can add binary packages from the very same menu
Oct 4, 2026, 7:00 PM@nina_kali_nina @netbsd it only shows my wired ethernet, which I can't use because the router is downstairs. oh no
Oct 4, 2026, 7:00 PM@nina_kali_nina @netbsd PLEASE tell me that tethering my phone will work on NetBSD...
@techokami @netbsd android? it should, according to https://man.netbsd.org/urndis.4
@techokami @nina_kali_nina @netbsd if you have a USB-C to Ethernet (you may, because it could be many of those little wannabe laptop docking dongles) you might be able to plug your ethernet into it, and then have it access your phones data connection just using the ethernet support to bootstrap you
Oct 4, 2026, 7:05 PM@plzupgrademe @netbsd @nina_kali_nina I don't own such a thingy :( but I can plug my phone into my computer via USB, will that let me tether?
@techokami @netbsd @nina_kali_nina not sure I’d be confident it can talk to an ethernet, but @nina_kali_nina mentioned it may be supported so worth a try, best way to find out is to plug it in and give it a go
Oct 4, 2026, 7:11 PM@plzupgrademe @netbsd @nina_kali_nina tethered, got interwebs, this is still bad and cursed, someone needs to port the driver from OpenBSD to NetBSD
Oct 4, 2026, 7:20 PM@plzupgrademe @netbsd @nina_kali_nina okay new issue: I don't have pkgin and after entering in the exact commands from the official install document, pkg_add does not see pkgin in the repo...?
Oct 4, 2026, 7:24 PM@plzupgrademe @netbsd @nina_kali_nina ugh there was a missing part of the path -_-
Oct 4, 2026, 7:26 PM@plzupgrademe @netbsd @nina_kali_nina FINALLY getting stuff installed to make this relatively useful
@techokami good job! The learning curve can be quite a bit intense (I still don't quite grok how disk subsystem/wedges work), but the docs are wonderful, and there are plenty kind people around who can advise stuff
Oct 4, 2026, 7:36 PM@nina_kali_nina @plzupgrademe @netbsd currently getting all the packages for KDE downloaded (what? I need something safe and familiar!) and this is going to take a while :blobfoxdeadinside:
really do NOT like CTWM. At all. Why do I have to have the cursor on the window to keep it focused? Also why is the only editor out of the box vi????? And there is no visible settings for anything
Oct 4, 2026, 7:40 PM@nina_kali_nina @plzupgrademe @netbsd okay critical issue, how do I make KDE Plasma (or ANY ENVIRONMENT) be used at login
@techokami you need to configure a desktop manager, there are quite a few options
Oct 4, 2026, 8:02 PM@nina_kali_nina @plzupgrademe @netbsd ...uh, this is not helping me in the slightest :( still getting CTWM and XDM.
Oct 4, 2026, 8:13 PM@nina_kali_nina @plzupgrademe @netbsd to elaborate, I have a .xinitrc in my home folder and the contents are "exec startxfce4" (because I don't know what KDE's command is but I also installed XFCE4 as a fallback option) and it still just starts XDM, which sends me into CTWM. Whyyyyyyyyy
@techokami it should be .xsession if the docs aren't lying and I hope they aren't
Oct 4, 2026, 8:46 PM@nina_kali_nina @plzupgrademe @netbsd derrrp, switched to .xsession and now... uhhhhh... fans are going 100% and all I have is a black screen with a console output??
Oct 4, 2026, 7:44 PM@nina_kali_nina @plzupgrademe @netbsd ahh, right, SDDM should be available...
@techokami actually ed is the standard text editor but I'm pretty sure you won't enjoy it lol. NetBSD is very UNIX like and very true to the roots and KISS principles.
I'm not a very big fan of ctwm myself, precisely for the reason you explained; I like that xfce4 comes as a ready made desktop on NetBSD and OpenBSD, but my heart belongs to jwm (for now). Especially that xfce4 is getting sloppy
Oct 4, 2026, 7:43 PM@nina_kali_nina @plzupgrademe @netbsd yeah I know, eventually I'll be installing CDE, but first I need to, you know, make it use something else
@techokami @nina_kali_nina @netbsd excellent choice with CDE. This thread has also been a good reminder to me why I just use MacOS now for my Unix fix. CDE would make it almost worth it to switch.
@plzupgrademe I, on the other hand, keep being fascinated by NetBSD. I think it's incredible how good the OS is considering the size of the project (being at least one or two orders of magnitude smaller than Linux and MacOS) and the funding (almost complete lack of it).
Oct 4, 2026, 10:29 PM@techokami @nina_kali_nina @plzupgrademe
it's controlled by the ClickToFocus/SloppyFocus settings in ctwmrc, but the answer is that mouse focus is traditional for unix. We ship xedit too for a simple text editor in base.
Oct 4, 2026, 10:31 PM@netbsd @nina_kali_nina @plzupgrademe I ended up installing nano, though knowing that xedit exists in the base install is good to know
@techokami as I mentioned, sysinst can configure pkgin for you, it's pretty convenient!
@techokami it is worth reading through dmesg output, for starters. It might be that your WiFi card isn't supported :(
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Oct 4, 2026, 7:03 PM@nina_kali_nina @netbsd it's a Intel Wi-Fi 6 AX200, PCI 8086:2723:8086:0084
OpenBSD has a driver but apparently NetBSD does not???
@techokami that does happen, unfortunately. But it means there's a driver with compatible source license at least
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