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דאָס איז נישט קיין פּײַפּdukepaaron@babka.social
Oct 1, 2026, 3:12 PM
@serge my take isn't from subject matter exhaustion.
It's an outgrowth of my disdain for the continuing repercussions of the haskalah and the ideological oppression of living as a diasporic people in relation to those continuing repercussions.
The easy release of stolen meaning is liberationist in nature.
The political wings of gentile society want us trapped in their word games knowing that we can't win that fight for control of meaning, just for simple numerical reasons.
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Serge from Babkaserge@babka.social
Oct 1, 2026, 3:14 PM
@dukepaaron
Right, I'm more explaining to @menelion.
If you'd talked to me 15 years ago, I would have come off as a Zionist who was largely publicly non-Zionist.
That's changed not because my views have radically shifted, but because the externalities have changed.
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דאָס איז נישט קיין פּײַפּdukepaaron@babka.social
Oct 1, 2026, 3:18 PM
@serge the externalities are changing so rapidly right now we're in increasing jeopardy.
Like the knowledge doubling curve in a way.
Anywho... the precarity is increasing exponentially.
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Serge from Babkaserge@babka.social
Oct 1, 2026, 3:22 PM
@dukepaaron
I'm about a third of the way through the new Dara Horn book, and that's helped me put words to what I've been seeing.
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דאָס איז נישט קיין פּײַפּdukepaaron@babka.social
Oct 1, 2026, 3:30 PM
@serge Even when she's articulating something I'm not in alignment with she's still nailing the essence of the issue. And in a way that is truly unassimilated.
I stand by my opinion that she's the most important Jewish public intellectual of the 21st century so far. At least in the diaspora. And she's basically doing pop-culture style writing in these two particular books of hers.
Just a phenomenal talent.
I'm stalled on her book. It's my busy season at work which just also coincides with our holiday season. Every fn year. Really hard to get anything else done during this time of year, but I should be able to get back to it after I'm done with next week though.
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Serge from Babkaserge@babka.social
Oct 1, 2026, 3:31 PM
@dukepaaron
100%
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Serge from Babkaserge@babka.social
Oct 1, 2026, 3:41 PM
@dukepaaron
A slightly modified quote from her interview.
"[We aren't teaching antisemitism as bias or discrimination].
We are teaching about antisemitism as a lie. It is a lie that people use to gain or maintain power. And the lie is always the same. Jews are destroying what you value the most.
That's it.
Jews are destroying what you value the most.
And the only thing that changes in different eras, different social settings, different social circles, different cultures is what you value the most. So if you're in a deeply Christian society, then the whole rhetoric is around Jews are Christ killers. If you're in a racist society, Jews are an inferior race, if you're in an anti-racist society, Jews are racist."
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דאָס איז נישט קיין פּײַפּdukepaaron@babka.social
Oct 1, 2026, 6:24 PM
@serge I watched that interview. She's spot on.
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Amanda Carsonacarson@babka.social
Oct 2, 2026, 1:32 PM
@dukepaaron @serge @menelion I'm still making my way through People Love Dead Jews, but I've been watching all her interviews for the new book which I'm absolutely reading after I finish this one. I don't think I saw this one though, unless I'm confusing it with another one. So which interview is this?
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Serge from Babkaserge@babka.social
Oct 2, 2026, 1:33 PM
@acarson
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vWP2bFt-jz8
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Amanda Carsonacarson@babka.social
Oct 2, 2026, 4:21 PM
@serge @dukepaaron @menelion Oh yeah this one's on my watch later list.
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