I'm genuinely considering buying an analog/digital camera, because every single modern phone has AI on their camera software ( with the promise of "super zoom/remove noise", it modifies instead the photos )
I got told by a dear friend to get a Canon T4I, but I'm open to more recommendations
@maestrafenix t4i is usually called eos 650d in europe
it's basically the exact same camera as the eos m i have, except dslr instead of mirrorless
i like mine, don't really need anything better than 2012 stuff for amateur use
i guess if you get the 650m it'll be bigger and heavier than mine, otoh you'll have a viewfinder and native access to the whole EF lens ecosystem (which i need a passive adapter for), which may be discontinued but is extensive
otoh, mirrorless has the option to use all sorts of interesting vintage lenses through adapters due to short flange, and even though the ef-m lens ecosystem is pretty small some of them are super nice and versatile (like the 22mm f/2.0 pancake)
@maestrafenix if you get it (or any canon dslr or older mirrorless that doesn't use the current rf mount) i have a decent collection of various lenses that you can try out
@q66 I see, it's quite handy knowing all of this
Thank you, Nina /g
@maestrafenix the fun thing about EF lenses is that it has perfect backwards *and* forwards compatibility
it was invented for the analog SLRs of the late 80s, and you can use any EF lens made at any point with any of those old cameras
likewise you can use any old lens with any newer camera, digital or not
so that's pretty nice
Jul 22, 2026, 8:16 AM@tammeow @lilylunatic this is so useful to know, thank you! /g
I need some time to research about this and other models, but this is so good to consider
Seems definitely it will be better for me to get one mirrorless, so I can just swap between lenses rather than trying to fit myself into a "one size fits all" camera, which is how I always struggled with
Jul 22, 2026, 9:19 AMJul 22, 2026, 9:31 AM@tammeow @lilylunatic @maestrafenix lenses with a fixed focal length are also great because you get better picture quality/optics in general for the same price, as zoom lenses are inherently complex and most cheaper zoom lenses are pretty crap
and some fixed lenses are pretty universal, in the 22-35mm range for aps-c and mft crop sensors
also if you want compact you can also do similar thing as i did and get some older eos m camera, they're basically pocketable too and you get a bigger aps-c sensor, micro-four-thirds is pretty smol
and that way you still get access to the full range of dslr lenses too when it comes down to it
@tammeow @lilylunatic @maestrafenix fwiw i take 95% of what i do with either my 22mm lens (x1.6 crop with my camera is ~35mm equivalent) or 35mm (x1.6 is roughly 50-ish)
for micro-four-thirds you want to multiply the numbers by 2 (it's 1/4 of a full frame sensor) so smaller sensor means bigger effective focal length but also less light being collected and it becomes harder to achieve good depth of field