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  Glyphglyph@mastodon.social

  Oct 16, 2026, 7:59 PM

  @tef @xgranade @astraluma the degree of lock-in of these projects makes it a bit hard for me to project this out. like most projects adopting them right now are not using pyx, and OpenAI seems to have relatively little interest in making that happen at this point (it's not really aligned with their business model). maybe the pip maintainers get a break for a few years, do some maintenance with fewer people yelling at them, and then we all switch back later?

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  teftef@mastodon.social

  Oct 16, 2026, 8:23 PM

  @glyph @xgranade

  like, i get that you will feel the risks are less involved, being a bit more first hand with managing large projects and seeing it more as the cycle of growth and decay that's always existed

  but, like, i do think you can understand that other people might feel more looming dread about stuff

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  teftef@mastodon.social

  Oct 16, 2026, 8:28 PM

  @glyph @xgranade

  personally, i'm more of a cynic, seeing dev tools being bought out only makes their position within the ecosystem more obvious rather than less fragile

  but like yeah i think this just feels like the further encroachment of what used to feel a little more like a community project than a vendor consortium, given all the other masks have been pulled down, y'know?

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  Glyphglyph@mastodon.social

  Oct 16, 2026, 8:33 PM

  @tef @xgranade the vibes are rancid for sure but that also doesn't necessarily mean that there's any appreciable harm beyond unpleasant aesthetics. which does clarify its priority in the omnicatastrophe

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  Glyphglyph@mastodon.social

  Oct 16, 2026, 8:42 PM

  @tef @xgranade re: the looming dread, that's exactly what I'm thinking out loud about here. is it an emergency existential risk, or is it a mildly unfortunate but livable compromise? thought distortion we should do some breathing exercises about or massive organizing challenge that demands urgent action? I can't say to feel _good_ about it but given the long list of the latter, it's good if we can make it more of a mental health exercise by classifying it as the former

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  teftef@mastodon.social

  Oct 16, 2026, 11:02 PM

  @glyph @xgranade i feel the thing worth noting here is that we all get to draw a line on where livable compromise is

  and it should not be surprising to find that some people do not find it livable, and other people would compromise a lot more for the modest benefit heh

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