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  • Eryk SalvaggioCyberneticForests
    Jul 25, 2026, 11:53 AM

    Then it becomes perceived as a “loss of control,” but this shift also ( *needlessly* ) shifts the locus of control to the model! We lose control of things without them “taking control” all the time. Building a narrative out of “we weren’t in control, so what was?” invites a kind of mystical fantasy to displace accountability.

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  • Jul 25, 2026, 12:44 PM

    @CyberneticForests To me a simpler framing is:
    * An optimization goal function created a perverse incentive.
    * The model under test exhibited unexpected (but not unprecedented) behavior by escaping the test sandbox
    * Hugging Face was a bystander, were harmed, and filed a police report.
    * These events may support some of OpenAI’s preferred narratives, but seem to go against others. On the whole OpenAI suffered mild reputational damage.
    * This was not a conspiracy, a marketing stunt, or planned in advance.

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