Bethanie Maples: "My work actually has proven that AI companions can halt suicidal ideation"
https://youtu.be/-El-CFpOf2I?t=1198
Jump to ~3 min to hear the host discuss Weizenbaum. It's an insult to mention him in a video promoting exactly what he warned us against.
(scroll up in this 16 month old thread for context)
I interrupt my month of silence on social media to continue screaming into the void about my personal favorite case study in the AI hype. Bethanie Maples should absolutely not be giving a webinar for the International Association of Suicide Prevention. This is frustrating and irresponsible. People are going to get hurt.
Great, she's also on the Chan Zuckerberg Initiative's "Education Advisory Board" which is "bringing together a diverse group of experts to help guide efforts in advancing the use of AI to transform learning and improve educational outcomes."
https://chanzuckerberg.com/newsroom/ai-developer-tools-for-education-launch/
![The Advisory Board members are:
Dan Carroll
Former Chief Product Officer and co-founder of Clever
Richard Culatta
CEO of ISTE+ASCD
Bethanie Drake-Maples
Founder and CEO of Atypical AI
Louis Gomez
Professor of Education at UCLA and a member of the National Academy of Education
Babak Mostaghimi
Founding Partner of LearnerStudio
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This screenshot is from the Replika app's onboarding flow.
In which I continue chronicling this case study of corrupt, bullshit AI research leaking into public life.
In a report from Brookings Institution:
"Presented to Parliament by the Secretary of State for Science, Innovation and Technology by Command of His Majesty"
“What I had not realized is that extremely short exposures to a relatively simple computer program could induce powerful delusional thinking in quite normal people.”
- Joseph Weizenbaum
@paninid @theluddite Miriam Weizenbaum:
I always heard that just really kind of soaked in arrogance. Like, how could she be so stupid to think that this is actually a meaningful communication? Here you have somebody who so needs a landing pad for her feelings that she’s willing to embrace it, right? And he totally misses that, he totally misses the human need and instead speaks of just evidence of this person’s stupidity rather than evidence of their humanity. https://99percentinvisible.org/episode/the-eliza-effect/
Thank you for sharing this link.
I love 99% Invisible and linked it within the post shared above.
@theluddite this whole thread describes a slow-motion train crash of opportunism, naïveté and wilful ignorance. I dread to read its inevitable outcome.
@fluidlogic same! This thread doesn't even have the whole story, just the highlights! For example, there's also the time that I sent everything I knew about this to 404media asking them to do journalism and investigate only for them to write an article based only on what I told them, not even credit me, then feed me insulting bullshit when I emailed them about it.
I've been doing some digging myself and there will almost certainly be an update post sooner than later :)
@theluddite man, this doesn't help to convince me that "learning science" isn't as much a scam "science" as evolutionary psychology!
Haha yes. Extremely bleak. It seems that the AI people have found the most aggressively spreading scam and it's metastasizing at breakneck speed. The AI singularity is real, though not in a p(doom) sense, but a Baudrillardian postmodern sense. In like 10 years there will be only empty slop composed of symbols that once meant something in their long lost training data!
@theluddite yep, it's already happening in so many places, it's a weird sense of loss to feel.
@theluddite each new post you make infuriates me more about this BS!
@gedankenstuecke right?! It's infuriating how far it has gone. I would've never imagined, almost a full 2 years ago, that this would have so much life!
Jun 17, 2025, 3:51 PMConsider Replika, at this point a chatbot that offers itself as a friend, confidante, lover, psychotherapist. It’s built to be emotive, supportive, and erotic if that’s what a person wants. There’s a remarkable parallelism between what Replika’s developers promise and what enthusiastic users say they like about Replika. The description of Replika by the parent company in its ad says this: Join millions talking to their own AI friends. Replika is for anyone who wants a friend with no judgement, drama, or social anxiety involved. Replika users make it clear that the writers of these ads know their clientele. Users say to me that people are disappointing because they judge you and they can abandon you. The drama of human connection is exhausting. In my studies people tell me that they like chatbot friendship because it takes the stress out of relationships. With a chatbot friend there is no friction, there is no second guessing, there is no ambivalence, there is no fear of being left behind. In contrast, Replika is a sure thing, a confidence booster, always there, day or night.
A self over the past 20 years that’s become starved of the give and take of conversation, that hasn’t learned to tolerate vulnerability and respect the vulnerability of others, is primed to look to technology for simpler fare.
We treated programs as though they were people, but now we are trained to treat people as though they were programs. To me that’s the moment to mark. It’s not whether or not chatbots are fascinating, or smart, or pass the Turing test. It’s what it’s doing to our treating people as if they were only machines.
When we connect to machines that pretend to be empathic, we tell, and they will remember, but we will not have been heard. And I ask the question: will we no longer care?
@abucci That's spot on and I will absolutely watch this. Thanks!
Jun 17, 2025, 6:07 PM