Sep 4, 2026, 11:48 PM@eff Uhm no? Training my own brain on copyrighted materials would land me in jail if I didn't pay for them... But the biggest companies get a free pass? I don't actually think this is the kind of "fostering" we want going on.
How is the EFF not on our side with this one?
@corigan01 @eff they have been peddling this position for years.
Sep 5, 2026, 5:05 AM@707Kat @eff I guess I never really paid enough attention to notice, I had figured the EFF was on our side and just left them alone to fight my own battles.
It sucks to feel I trusted them... It feels like the ground is crumbling as every major thing I thought was on our side turns out to be terrible (like linux, Debian, and most of FOSS right now).
I really need to start my own org at this point, I don't really know who else to trust.
@corigan01 @eff yeah it sucks. I think I only knew because it’s been a subject I have been paying really close attention to.
There are still good people and organizations out there. The EFF does do good regarding surveillance. People are banding together and building moats. But yes, it does make the landscape bleak for current existing organizations.
I think some of the ones that swing gAI will change their mind, as I have seen it elsewhere before. EFF I think not.
@707Kat @corigan01 @eff And unfortunately the Creative Commons are *not* one of the good organisations. They've got the same stance of training GenAI models. Have done for at least 5 years 😞
"AI" is a key element to modern mass surveillance, so they're clearly not *that* good at it either.
Sep 5, 2026, 8:41 AM@corigan01 @eff I don't think that the point is that they should not pay for the materials acquisition, but rather having access and the rights to use the materials without further licensing. Which I think is fair for individuals, but I don't agree with it on a moral ground when it comes to these big AI companies, due to the repercussions in the society.
@corigan01 @eff ianal but I thought viewing copyrighted works was always fair use, it’s the copying that needs a license. So if you obtain a movie to watch from wherever, you’re still in the clear, but you are not allowed to share it (without copyright owner permission).
But if you read a copyrighted book in a library, and reproduce it verbatim from memory, you can’t sell those copies.
@uint8_t @corigan01 @eff I always thought that kinda depended on where you live -- some states don't really care about private viewing, others do afaik.
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Was just about to write this comment myself. As a student I'm expected to pay insane prices for even just a pdf in some ocasions. But somehow these companies should be allowed to acces that information for free? Fuck that.
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