Mar 6, 2026, 10:56 PM@ambiguous_yelp
I didn't say anyone was mentally ill. And it wouldn't matter anyway if I did because I don't think mentally ill people are inferior. I have mental issues myself.
So, in your view, what is gender?
- Mar 6, 2026, 10:56 PM
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- Mar 6, 2026, 10:56 PM
@ambiguous_yelp
I'd like to reiterate, my main aim with the original post was to take a stand against thought policing, not to denigrate people who have particular views on gender.I don't mind being proven wrong, what I mind is people using legal force against or socially stigmatising dissenting views.
Sorry if I offended you.
🌱🏴🅰️🏳️⚧️🐧🔧 Ambiyelpambiguous_yelp@veganism.socialMar 6, 2026, 11:24 PM@light I'm not answering any questions like that until you tell me why you care so much to defend your definition of gender
- Mar 6, 2026, 11:33 PM
- 🌱🏴🅰️🏳️⚧️🐧🔧 Ambiyelpambiguous_yelp@veganism.socialMar 6, 2026, 11:37 PM
@light And why do you care to defend this particular dissenting opinion, what is the underlying reason that this is a valuable opinion that deserves not to be socially reprimanded?
- Mar 11, 2026, 11:02 PM
@ambiguous_yelp
All opinions are legitimate until proven otherwise. This is a specific instance of the general principle of "innocent until proven guilty".
Do you have a reason why the view that sex is biological, gender isn't real, and "man" and "woman" refer to biological sex rather than self-identity is guilty and deserving of being socially and/or legally reprimanded? - 🌱🏴🅰️🏳️⚧️🐧🔧 Ambiyelpambiguous_yelp@veganism.socialMar 12, 2026, 1:14 PM
@light That isn't an answer, out of the field of infinite possible opinions you chose to spend your finite life defending this one and not the opinion that there is a teapot orbiting neptune
- Mar 12, 2026, 1:17 PM
@ambiguous_yelp No one is punishing people for saying there is a teapot orbiting neptune.
- 🌱🏴🅰️🏳️⚧️🐧🔧 Ambiyelpambiguous_yelp@veganism.socialMar 12, 2026, 1:23 PM
@light Do you not believe that there are words people can say that are harmful? Like "Someone should stab this person on the street" is an opinion and its illegal to say in most countries
- Mar 12, 2026, 1:36 PM
@ambiguous_yelp Yes, but biological facts are not that.
- 🌱🏴🅰️🏳️⚧️🐧🔧 Ambiyelpambiguous_yelp@veganism.socialMar 12, 2026, 1:42 PM
@light Why not why doesn't it cause harm to deny trans people their dignity
- Mar 12, 2026, 1:45 PM
@ambiguous_yelp Why do you feel your dignity depends on forcing people to speak of you as a woman?
What about their dignity? What about the dignity that comes with freedom of thought? - 🌱🏴🅰️🏳️⚧️🐧🔧 Ambiyelpambiguous_yelp@veganism.socialMar 12, 2026, 1:48 PM
@light Because woman is a social construct and this is quite easy for me to prove, so denying someone womanhood is not about facts, it is a social choice to be cruel and uninclusive
- Mar 12, 2026, 1:56 PM
@ambiguous_yelp 1) "woman" and "man" are only social constructs according to a particular, very modern, definition of "woman" and "man"
https://slatestarcodex.com/2014/11/21/the-categories-were-made-for-man-not-man-for-the-categories/
(the author is genderist like you, but he also shows my point that definitions and categories are arbitrary)
2) Even if you could somehow "prove" that your definitions were factually correct, that would be no excuse to force them on people. Bad ideas deserve arguments, not bullets. - Mar 12, 2026, 1:59 PM
@ambiguous_yelp Oh, and 3) it's not cruel. Just like saying to a person suffering from psychosis that their psychotic delusions are not true.
Just like anything, it can be done kindly or cruelly depending on your attitude. - 🌱🏴🅰️🏳️⚧️🐧🔧 Ambiyelpambiguous_yelp@veganism.socialMar 12, 2026, 2:00 PM
@light You have the burden of proof to show that gender is objective
- Mar 12, 2026, 2:05 PM
@ambiguous_yelp Honestly, I am open to the idea that it isn't. I have to say, all the violence being done and threatened to make people like me shut up isn't convincing me any though.
- 🌱🏴🅰️🏳️⚧️🐧🔧 Ambiyelpambiguous_yelp@veganism.socialMar 12, 2026, 2:06 PM
@light I have offered several times now to debate why gender is socially constructed and you seem uninterested and just keep positing that it isnt, that isnt socratic dialogue its just you trying to shout your belief louder than mine
- Mar 12, 2026, 2:08 PM
@ambiguous_yelp What I have been trying to say for days now is that isn't the main point of my original post.
The main point was to take a stand against thought policing.
>Trans women are men. *If you think that belief is wrong and illegal and want to report me to the thought police, kill yourself.* - Mar 12, 2026, 2:09 PM
@ambiguous_yelp I like to say things that are taboo as a way of taking a stand for the acceptability of that taboo.
- 🌱🏴🅰️🏳️⚧️🐧🔧 Ambiyelpambiguous_yelp@veganism.socialMar 12, 2026, 2:10 PM
@light If you say something you don't believe that is a lie. If you knowingly say something false you are spreading misinformatino and holding us all back. Either stand by what you say or delete the post
So are you going to delete the post then? Or do you actually believe that trans women aren't women
- Mar 12, 2026, 2:17 PM
@ambiguous_yelp
>Or do you actually believe that trans women aren't women
It's complicated. I think transwomen are biologically male. But I am comfortable with considering them "metaphorical" or "adoptive" women if they ask politely to be considered that way, kind of like how one might have a adopted family member. As in: they are not literally biologically related to you, yet you still consider them one of your own.
I am not open to entertaining the dogma of tyrants.