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  • Ryan Finnieryan@m29.us
    Feb 6, 2026, 5:46 PM

    Signal: “Please give me unfettered access to your address book. I’m very trustworthy!”
    Me: “No, you’re not.”
    “Why not?”
    “You keep pushing this dark pattern on me and have no way for me to say I never want to consent to this.”
    “Okay, but besides that?”
    “…”
    “Same time next week?”

    “Find contacts on Signal” pop up with only “Not Now” and “Allow Access”
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  • ティージェーグレェteajaygrey@snac.bsd.cafe
    Feb 6, 2026, 6:06 PM
    Nah, it's all good homie!

    WhatsApp uses the same Axolotl Ratchet/Double Ratchet algorithm as Signal too, what could possibly go wrong?! They're hella trustworthy! Totally not sus at all!

    /sarcasm

    Meanwhile, headlines such as https://yro.slashdot.org/story/26/02/01/037202/us-government-also-received-a-whistleblower-complaint-that-whatsapp-chats-arent-private I am guessin: are goin to become more and more prevalent, not just for WhatsApp but FB/Meta Messenger and related forks too.
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  • Willow at largeWillow@social.xenofem.me
    Feb 6, 2026, 6:35 PM
    @teajaygrey that doesn't necessarily mean signal is insecure. it just means WhatsApp is garbage software. the article you linked states that content monitors can access messages, but signal doesn't have a similar backdoor. you can report spam on signal, but that doesn't send any messages to the signal service.
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  • ティージェーグレェteajaygrey@snac.bsd.cafe
    Feb 6, 2026, 6:54 PM
    Last I checked, Signal required a Phone number.

    You do realize that under CALEA and what was previously known as the PATRIOT Act, anything with a phone number is purvey to warrantless wiretapping legislation, right?

    That is simply not how real "secure" comms systems are designed, from day one TextSecure/RedPhone (the predecessors to Signal) were sus.

    They remain sus.
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  • zivizaire@fedi.absturztau.be
    Feb 9, 2026, 9:57 AM

    @Willow @teajaygrey it may be secure at the moment but it absolutely is sus and there’s no reason to have any preconceptions that the Signal service is developed and ran in any good faith or will remain that way in the coming months/years

    consider:

    • it is based in magastan, and relies on magastanian fashcloud providers (which they lie about being impossible to avoid)
    • it’s woefully corporate in its presentation
    • the explicitly privacy-hostile phone number requirement (which they make up bullshit excuses for)
    • the explicitly hostile stance towards decentralization (which, again, they lie a lot to justify)
    • dark patterns like the aforementioned

    signal carries plenty of red flags, it might as well only be a matter of time before it blows up in its users’ faces

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