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Felix Hlatkymellifluousbox@mastodon.social
Jun 7, 2026, 4:22 PM
After individually meeting @rose.bsky.team in April and @seboslaw in May, it felt great to meet both again with @rude1.blacksky.team at #pubconf2026 This is still a competitive situation. Our protocols and the incentives they create matter. Our backgrounds influence what we build. Our financing models bind and enable us. But I felt all of us belonging to "Team Open" very strongly in Amsterdam. I am excited to see where this will bring us and what we can do together.
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william ⁂ maggoswjmaggos@liberal.city
Jun 7, 2026, 4:29 PM
@mellifluousbox @rose.bsky.team @seboslaw @rude1.blacksky.team
for now, like every VC funded startup. when pushed, if they stick to their "Team Open" principles, they won't be working there any more. you really should be talking to the owners but afaik, that's not public.
you're being very kind here.
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Sebastianseboslaw@mastodon.social
Jun 7, 2026, 4:42 PM
@mellifluousbox @rose.bsky.team @rude1.blacksky.team I feel the same way @mellifluousbox! Good things will come.
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Jonjdp23@neuromatch.social
Jun 8, 2026, 5:08 AM
Great to hear … very exciting all around!
@seboslaw @mellifluousbox @rose.bsky.team @rude1.blacksky.team
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Tonicoloco@mstdn.social
Jun 7, 2026, 11:00 PM
@mellifluousbox @rose.bsky.team @seboslaw @rude1.blacksky.team no entiendo por que se mezclan con BSKY.
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toothpaste_sandwichtoothpaste_sandwich@mastodon.nl
Jun 7, 2026, 11:31 PM
@mellifluousbox @rose.bsky.team @seboslaw @rude1.blacksky.team I'm not convinced corporate platforms like Eurosky and Bluesky are a good thing. Why not just use ActivityPub? I think the answer is "money", and I don't like that.
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Sebastianseboslaw@mastodon.social
Jun 8, 2026, 5:32 AM
@toothpaste_sandwich @mellifluousbox @rose.bsky.team @rude1.blacksky.team Eurosky is a non-profit
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Eli Malloniame.li@bsky.brid.gy
Jun 8, 2026, 5:46 AM
Corporate? Eurosky is a project of the Modal Foundation. Me and others choose to build on atproto because of account portability — I don’t want my online identity to be tied to my Mastodon host forever!
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toothpaste_sandwichtoothpaste_sandwich@mastodon.nl
Jun 8, 2026, 9:36 AM
@iame.li @mellifluousbox @rose.bsky.team @seboslaw @rude1.blacksky.team Portability? It's almost impossible to set up a relay for atproto, and it's impossible for an individual to do so. And even if you do, you're completely beholden to the corporate Bluesky protocol: https://social.growyourown.services/@FediTips/113896029909649321
Sure, moving accounts may not be completely flawless yet on Mastodon, but at least you're not tied to your Bluesky relay forever! Also, it's the Fediverse, you don't have to use Mastodon. I understand moving accounts is much easier on Sharkey, for instance.
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Sebastianseboslaw@mastodon.social
Jun 8, 2026, 9:46 AM
@toothpaste_sandwich @iame.li @mellifluousbox @rose.bsky.team @rude1.blacksky.team A relay can be run on a raspberry pi and there are already multiple ones in action around the globe apart from the bsky one. In fact, Eurosky is running one.
If you want to run your own: https://bsky.app/profile/bad-example.com/post/3mfkrfvy3ok2u
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ikuturso 🇪🇺ikuturso@mastodon.social
Jun 8, 2026, 11:51 AM
@toothpaste_sandwich it's the appview that is very difficult now, they changed the architecture a bit. That said, when pro-BS people talk about how easy either one is there's tons of caveats they never mention. You can certainly get a cheap relay and maybe even an appview set up but the real questions are how independent that really makes you and how feasible that would be if the protocol actually became popular and you'd need to do it with hundreds of millions of users instead.
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ikuturso 🇪🇺ikuturso@mastodon.social
Jun 8, 2026, 11:53 AM
@toothpaste_sandwich it sometimes really feels like intentional obfuscation... push a very convoluted architecture that lets you push all sorts of claims about decentralization as long as you conveniently ignore a few things...
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Sebastianseboslaw@mastodon.social
Jun 8, 2026, 1:44 PM
@ikuturso @toothpaste_sandwich how easy is it to run a Mastodon instance that has 40mio users? Because that's the comparison you need to make if you're honest. Otherwise it's Apples vs Oranges.
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